ABBA Gold Anomalies The Winner Takes It All (Part 1)

The bits of The Winner... you weren't s'posed to hear. Plus a brief analysis of the piano part.

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[MarkPMus]

Also will try to do more piano playing videos, but these don't seem to be the most popular of my vids, judging by Beware of Darkness viewing figures!

[MarkPMus]

Thanks for the comments, Moz! I did a really intense listen between the 1992 Gold and 80's Polydor mix yesterday, and it seems it's not quite as straight forward and anomaly free as I first thought. I will make a new video in a couple of days. Also I listened to a YT video, where the whole intro sounded detuned, a bit like a western movie! Presumably this was a 97 or 2001 mix. Very bright. The 80's mix has the best timbre I feel. Thanks for positive feedback about my new movie intro!

[ABPianoBA]

Hi

as you probably saw on my channel, I play the piano, and especially ABBA. I saw, you play also ABBA, so i have one question. Can you send me the sheets for the Winner takes it all intro or for intermezzo nr1 or for does your mother know?

ABPianoBA

[mozpiano2]

Yes you are correct. Generally, single masters had harsher EQ and more compression. The most recent remaster of the Single Edit of Eagle (not the full album version) from the Deluxe ABBA The Album CD seems to come from a very badly compressed single mastertape, and the EQ sounds very dull and dry compared to the full album version as well.

[MarkPMus]

Sometimes singles were EQ'd differently from album mixes in order for them to sound loud on the radio. LP mixes were often more refined. Though not sure if this is true for TWTIA.

[mozpiano2]

Sorry for these long rambling comments!!!

[mozpiano2]

The original vinyl and the Polydor CDs have this segue. All the original Polydor CDs were mastered with the whole album master tape playing through anyway. I do think it is better to remaster each song individually using the mixdown tapes, but if the LP cutting tape is to be used, then I see no reason why the whole tape can be played in one hit.

[mozpiano2]

The single master would have sounded completely identical to the album master, as both were EQed for vinyl from the mixdown tapes. If an audio engineer is to use the LP EQ tapes, than it would be much better for them to play the whole LP tape through, and then to edit each song from there. Both Astley remasters (1997/2001) do not have a segue between Lay All... and The Way.., which is only available on the LP master tape, and not on the mixdown tapes for each song.

[mozpiano2]

Regarding the comments you made about the songs being remastered one at a time, I do agree with you if the engineer used the original mixdown tapes, but not if the tapes used were for LP cutting. To my knowledge, a single master was just that, a master tape for the TWTIA single (released several months before the album). Astley would have needed it anyway because the B side, Elaine, wasn't originally part of the Super Trouper album.

[mozpiano2]

Many thanks for the credit in the video!!! I love the Intermezzo No. 1 title think going on there, simply excellent. I will be uploading the out of tune remaster in a couple of days, as well as the single edit of Eagle, which the 1999 Astley remaster has an EXTREMELY bad edit, while all the other remasters of the single version don't have that horrible bad edit. The analysis of the piano part is excellent! You should upload yourself playing TWTIA in full, and the Intermezzo introduction as well!