Consciousness, Free Will & the Brain

The following is a discussion about free will and the conscious mind. It's part of a discussion with deryk359.

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Education

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• conscious
• consciousness
• free
• will
• brain
• mind
• neurology
• neurophysiology
• neuroanatomy
• neuroscience
• choice
• soul
• ghost
• in
• the
• machine

[WinstonSmithist]

Why are some people invoking Locke in order to, invalidate Empirical evidence? The Neuroscience he is talking about is standard medical practice in brain surgery. Philosophy doesn't decide what exists in the real world I'm afraid guys. Philosophy of mind was surpassed in descriptive and medical science. If you don't believe me. Next time you are in hospital ask the cleaner if they wouldn't mind operating on you? It will be cheaper, but that won't matter for long.

[noxidereus]

The narrator puts forth a flawed argument. The flaw in this argument is that awareness does not equate to free will and it is false to repackage Pinker's explanation as if it denies that awareness exists. Pinker is explicitly saying that what he means is that there is no "soul" external to our physiology that is making decisions for us, which is the only rational conclusion since there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever for the existence of a soul.

[WhiteMoonLights]

steve ur genious man,NOT

[blacknganga]

@jackgfenwick YOU are actually the addled one; addled with "philosophy", no doubt... make yourself aware of the determinist arguments of Locke and then get back to me (when your up to speed with the basics). BTW, happy sipping with your latte set, twit.

[jackgfenwick]

@blacknganga What an addled statement. Truthfully, I don't think you even grasp exactly what you're trying to communicate yourself. You come across as quite the mental pygmy.

[qoakzm2qoakzm]

@HedgehogRebellion ha i cant remembver what i was saying but youre right. i still split predeterminism and determinism though coz if this world was indeterministic truly then there could be deterministic processes ( or close enough, e.g classical mechanics ) without the whole world being deterministic i guess... but i relly cant remember what i was saying

[HedgehogRebellion]

@qoakzm2qoakzm OK...sorry. Im a determinist too, but im not sure I understand your splitting of determinism and predeterminism.

If the universe is a deterministic system, then what happens tommorow is predetermined even though we do not understand what it will be, do you follow?

[blacknganga]

The use of the term "free-will" is entirely false. It is an utter corruption of consciousness, and anyone who even takes cognizance of this term is thus tainted. Noam Chomsky does not understand this, hence there is a big black cross against his name in regards to these matters. He should have read more Schopenhauer, Nietzsche and Locke. There is an illusion here, caused by a weak will-power, and ultimately leading to an even weaker will-power...the strongest don't even let these concepts in...

[qigong1001]

@Narftaxaku200 Possible, but not probable.