Derren Brown - Fast buttons counting
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@durmiendo when you hold a tray, doesn't it count your hand weight as well.
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@durmiendo I almost agree...except I expect the scale is on the table,weighing the buttons NOT chosen...would be easier than fixing a tray with a transmitting scale. The tray on the table weighs the unchosen buttons, a stagehand reads it, signals to DB, probably just by holding up fingers. As the for the slapping, maybe he just likes it:? (I kid. It's misdirection...something extreme to distract the viewer (& Jo) from how he's getting the button "count".
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@flippadeal No, I'm not a magician! LOL I just read books like Georgi Lozanov's "Suggestology and Outlines of Suggestopedy" and Baudouin's "Suggestion and Autosuggestion". Derren is well-versed in all the theories of waking state and indirect suggestion, as well as hypnosis. I haven't read Milton Erickson on indirect suggestion, but Derren is all well versed in that, too, as well as in subliminal suggestion which can work--if the suggestive setup factors are conducive. He knows mnemonics too!!!
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@zuditaka fasciting, i knew that magic was always somehow related to psychology, such as how magicians often tell you stories to distract you, but I had not idea actual psychologist such as gestalt were involved... are you a magician or did yu just figre this out from knowledge? I think derren also does things very quickly so tha you don't have time to figure out what he's doing, his confident, professional way of speaking than you also helps a lot.
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@paolosacce Rudyard Kipling is a famous novelist, and "Kim" is a famous story about a boy spy in British Raj India.
All the many books about accelerated learning such as Ostrander and Schroeder's "Superlearning" and Colin Rose' "Accelerated Learning" discuss ways and means to do instantaneous arithmetic and high speed counting and such. Colin Wilson's "Frankenstein's Castle' is another good book. Read Georgi Lozanov's book on suggestology!
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@zuditaka who's Kipling's Kim? and are there any books or recorded-induction CD about fast counting?
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@paolosacce The jerks caused by slapping would make buttons on tray more inclined to level themselves out into one thin layer. Making for easier photographic reading of the buttons. Having color assortment helps to pick up a gestalt pattern, and any overlaying buttons in count. Kipling's Kim was trained in visual memory. We can learn this by autosuggestion and practice.Mnemonic systems for quick counting of the colored buttons are another possibility.
@htumla if u stop at 0:18 you can actually see the scale's cut under the bowl ;-)
paolosacce 1 year ago 4
look closely, it is the same table as in the other performance. An coincidence? Making things clearer to me, what do you think?
htumla 1 year ago