A Christian answer for Epicurus.
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"Nothing is either good or evil but thinking makes it so." (Hamlet)
Christianity is obsolete...God's utility function at its best...such a hypocrite doctrin...
They rarely even ask which story their steak tells them...
But and that's a big but...our ability as humans to create (moral) sense is fantastically immense...
Another 10.000 years of (empathical) evolution...and we may make it !
VIVAT EPICURUS & the STOICS !!!
1 year ago 5
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This guy seriously argues with Epicurus?
God does not exist. Prove it otherwise... OH NO PROOF?
Oh right....you can FEEL him right? LOL
AHAHAHAAHA
1 year ago 3
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The god in the bible is himself evil. "Then I heard the LORD say to the other men,… “ Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children” Ezekiel 9:5-7
“Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes.” Isaiah 13:15-18
“Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses” 1 Samuel 15:2-3
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When god gets around to stopping evil, will he also go back and undo all evils that have already occurred? Dealing justice to evildoers in the future is not the same as preventing evil, because he allowed to evil acts to happen in the first place. Also, you make the same mistake as those who use the "free will" argument, focusing on evil done by human action and ignoring things like malaria, hurricanes, and drought, which would be god's fault. Will he also punish himself for those things?
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As a responsible athiest i do not see it necessary to mock other peoples beliefs. This type of behaviour is supposed to be what we fight against. At least this guy makes an attempt to provide argument. I have met people unwilling to listen to anything i say about evolution let alone come up with some form of arugment against it.
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You rely on a book written by man to answer one of the most amazing riddles ever asked. You lose.
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I liked it better when Goldberg didn't speak.
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I love how this guys tells us what god thinks -I love how he quickly dismisses all the pain and suffering in the world and gives the excuse "well god is god and he can do whatever he wants".
These kind of people frighten me because given the right conditions and with the right charlatan to manipulate their feeble minds -they'll commit genocide and atrocities and excuse them as "holy".
American Taliban anyone?. .
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chirectomy, You assume that all of the terrible things that happen to humanity are undeserved. You also assume that humanity, in general, is innocent before God. What if humanity as a whole were guilty of the highest crime against God? Would He be unjust to punish them with terrible penalties? Why would He be guilty of evil? You, as most, think ill of the possibility of God's wrath because He extends grace so frequently. The full force of God's wrath is withheld for a time, for your sake.
Aleetheis 4 months ago
@Aleetheis
Are you saying that innocent children never die in floods, famines or earthquakes? What about babies who get AIDS or other STDs from their parents? Perhaps you're saying that all humans are born guilty and deserving of eternal damnation in the next life and whatever suffering god inflicts on us in this one. If so, I must say this is one of the most evil doctrines in any religion since it devalues our own humanity so much that we excuse the death and suffering of children.
chirectomy 3 months ago
@chirectomy
What is the definition of innocent? Do you decide? By what criterion does one measure innocence? If God exists, then He should be the judge of innocence or guilt. If humanity is a rebellious species, must God excuse their rebellion? What kind of leader/ruler does that? A ruler/sovereign must maintain authority over his/her subjects. You say,“I think all people are innocent from birth, therefore suffering endured by those innocent ones is unjust.”
Aleetheis 3 months ago
@chirectomy
The bible says,“All people are guilty from birth, therefore life itself is a gift of grace and underserved. If God chooses to take away grace, it is not unjust; it is the very definition of justice to give one what they are due.”
Aleetheis 3 months ago