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Reaportaj realitatea TV din 23 feb 2008

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• tara
• secuilor
• erdely
• ardeal
• transilvania
• romania

[yoalyn96]

@pickles1717 1.in familie vorbesti ce limba vrei tu ;2.in locurile publice vorbesti limba oficiala a statului in care te afli. P.S:eu nu am zis ca acasa nu poti sa vorbseti un maghiara!

[pickles1717]

@yoalyn96 tati,voi romanii cand emigrati,in italia si in spania,intre voi cum vorbiti acasa,lamagazin,sau oriunde va duceti?Nu-mi spune tu mi-e ca in italiana,ca nu e adevarat.Desigur,cand ma duc eu la magazin vorbesc romaneste,dar de ce vrei tu tati,sa vorbesc in romaneste acasa cu parintii mei?

[yoalyn96]

@SacaluBrasov corect ! esti in romania ,vorbesti romana ,te porti ca un roman,ESTI ROMAN! nu?? du-te ,tata ,in tara ta!

[SacaluBrasov]

@lugano288 un singur lucru as vrea. Sa stii ca-n tara asta, Romania, esti un simplu oaspete. Iar pentru toate atrocititatile comise de voi in toata istoria inclusiv cele comise de Horty , din ura si invidie fata de mii de romani, sa ziceti mersi ca va lasam sa mai stati pe pamantul nostru. Acelasi lucru e valabil si in Serbia sau Slovacia unde e aceeasi situatie. Uita-te la un recensamant pe etnii al imperiului Austro-Ungar inainte de Trianon sa vezi ca Romanii erau si atunci in majoritate.

[SacaluBrasov]

Trebuie sa urmam exemplul Slovaciei care a interzis folosirea limbii maghiare sau a oricaror insemne/porturi maghiare in societatea slovaka. Inclusiv pe pietrele de mormant. SA DAM CU UNGURII DE PAMANT SA SE INVETE UNDE LE ESTE LOCUL IN TARA ASTA!

[SacaluBrasov]

@lugano288 This culture, "Cernavoda I" gave birth to the "Trojan" culture. Those Carpatho-Danubers (also called "ARYANS") gave birth to the world's culture, spreading not only all over Europe and toward North Egypt and Mesopotamia, but to the far India, where their "Vedic" culture "inspired" (and is still inspiring today) the world's cultures - the Chaldeans, the Egyptians, and others. Hinduism and Christianity did not do anything else but copy, adjusting it to their local conditions . .

[SacaluBrasov]

@lugano288 In the "Cernavoda I" culture (4,400 - 3,500 B.C.) the shepherd tribes used horses and improved weapons; the bearers of this culture would move down to the South, to Anatolia, the land that connected the Balkan Peninsula of Asia Minor (Anatolia will sink into the Mediterranean Sea, in 4,000 B.C., leaving many islands and a new sea, the Aegean Sea).

[SacaluBrasov]

@lugano288 From "Vincea" culture, in 1961 Nicolae Vlasa discovered at Tartaria upon Mures (Transylvania) some small clay tablets dated 4,800 - 4,500 B.C., considered by the same Gimbutas as the very first written message in human history, long before the Sumerians tablets (probably arising also from the Danube).

[SacaluBrasov]

@lugano288 The "Boian" culture (4,000 - 3,800 B.C.) left us the first sanctuary created from clay and the "Hamangia" culture, the first statues worked in marble in human history , the anthropomorphous statues "The Thinker and his woman."

The "Vadeasa" culture contains pottery decorated with anthropomorphous accents, preceding the Trojan culture.

[SacaluBrasov]

@lugano288 Inside the Romanian territory, traces of various civilizations dating between 7,500 - 3,500 B.C. have been discovered.

The "Pre-Cucuteni" culture is considered by the American specialist Marija Gimbutos for being the oldest European culture with the pre-Indo-European population at its development apogee between 5,000 - 4,000 B.C.

[SacaluBrasov]

@lugano288 "how far you want to go back in History 40,000 years" I CAN GO how far I want in history because we were still here:

Actually the oldest human remains to be found in Europe date to 40.000 years ago and come from SW Romania (The Cave with Bones, search on wikipedia for Pestera cu Oase ) and Hungarians came in Pannonia around the 9th century from ASIA. So the difference of 40.000 years i think give us the right to be here.

h t t p://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/scienc­e/nature/3129654.stm

[SacaluBrasov]

@lugano288 Wrong ! WE are born in TRANSILVANIA. TISA is our ancestral border!

[SacaluBrasov]

@lugano288 By the way do you know how many "szekelys" are in Romanian ??? 498 at last census ! Most of them wants to live peacefully with romanians like they live since 434 AD. The only ones that are stupid and are barking shit are the politicians ! The ordinary szekely has no hate above romanians! They have schools in their language, administrative autonomy but NEVER teritorial ! Nobody can make a state in our state !

[SacaluBrasov]

@lugano288 You make me laugh :)) You are telling me (a descendat of a romanized dacian, actually speaker of the single VULGAR LATIN without dialects (romanian language) ) that erdely is a latin language? :)))))

[lugano288]

@SacaluBrasov

So far Erdely has a meaning in hungarian and Transylvania is from the Hungarian Erdely.

Ardeal has no meaning in your Rumanian language.

Just a phonetic form from Erdely.

So far I received from different Rumanians 12 different meanings for your Ardeal, all of them were different.

So knock it off.

KINIZSI

[lugano288]

@SacaluBrasov

So what if they lived in the stepps that means that they had no word for FOREST..

that was 2000 years ago, before.

Erdo is HUNGARIAN, just like Padure is Rumanian, because SILVA-SILVAE is latin and CODRU is Slavic.

[lugano288]

@SacaluBrasov

You mare teaching Hungarian language now.

Erdo is Forest and Elve is beyond =erdely.

Erdely =Trassilvania in Latin, not ULTRA SILUANA.

Remember you are Dak and Roman not Sanskrit, how far you want to go back in History 40,000 years, all languages have a common origin somewhere.

We are in the IX and X centuries, the romans called it DACIA or The Province of Dacia.

[lugano288]

@SacaluBrasov

You try and try, but without any results.

The Truth is you do not have an original name for Trasylvania, thats it.

Sumarian and Indo European and Sanskrit and so on origins for Ardeal.

Ardeal is 0 in Rumanian language, either you like it or not..

you make me laugh as i said.

[lugano288]

@SacaluBrasov

We go to Welsh, Scotland, Alto Adige, Basque Land, Catalonia, Finland for the Swedish minority ( yes they have Autonomy too ) and so on.

So what do you think about it ??

By the way Campione d'Italia is completly in Switzerland or San Marino is completly in Italy, and they are not afraid that San Marino will take over Italy, or Campione d'Italia will take over Switzerland,

[lugano288]

@SacaluBrasov

From Latin and DaK you guys you came up with SANSKRIT, how far East you go ??

Thats already INDIA, you make me laugh.

[SacaluBrasov]

@lugano288 You should add France and Spain witholding autonomy from the basques, Catalogna, Bretagne, England with the Welsh not to mention the muslim communities making up more than half the population in Marseilles, Malmo or Amsterdam, what would happen if they asked for autonomy?? The ETA were hunted down as terrorists and if any people have a claim to ancestry in Europe it's the basques. So, yes, to szeklers' autonomy when Catalogna wins the world cup!

[SacaluBrasov]

@lugano288 ...so the "land beyond the forest"). But if Erdély would mean "the land beyond the forest", the question arises: why L. Fejérpataky not use the word Erdély to translate into Hungarian terra ultra Siluana ? The answer is very simple: because terra ultra Siluana is not translating into Hungarian by "Erdély. Then, terra ultra Siluana refers to the Gelou country's , which was north of Erdeuelu / Erdély, "ARDEAL".

YOU ARE POINTLESS...I waste my time with you to teach you the true history.

[SacaluBrasov]

@lugano288 In all published editions of Anonymus, "ultra violate" from the original Latin is reproduced "ultrasiluana".Corectly we have the adverb ultra ="very" and the adjective siluana ="forrested", so "very woodland".What is important is that, for "land beyond the forest" as it has been translated so far by all translators, phrase ultra Siluan, L. Fejérpataky used, into hungarian translation the form "erdőntuli föld (erdő =forest, tuli [túli] "[the] side " and föld "country" [actually "land"]

[SacaluBrasov]

@lugano288 Hungarian does not belong to the Indo-European group and the word "ARDEAL" is Indo-European origin. So far, no linguist has succed to give a plausible explanation etymological name "Erdély" except by Erdo "forest" with the addition of the suffix-Ely, the latter interpreted as a distortion of the word "elve". However, the ethymons are not attested elsewhere in Hungarian language !

[SacaluBrasov]

@lugano288 Also took into account the fact that the Hungarians (who had lived long tribal union in steppe = would not have the vocabulary word "forest" and had to borrow it from somewhere (although ancient home, on both sides of the Ural mountains, where Ugric (urgic) populations live today, are forested).Also it was found that the lingvistic phenomenon according to Romanian words taken by hungayrians, "ea " becomes "é" and "a" tends to be transcribed "e" according to the hungayrian phonetic !