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J. Krishnamurti talks about society and human consciousness  
 
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mujoshu (1 week ago) Show Hide
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Yes. Find out if you really have something to lose by not being a corrupt hypocrite. If you are afraid of death, you cannot be free. You will always succumb to the temptation for comfort instead of truth.
teo829 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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I like how he said "Religious, political, football." These are all conflicting elements and we know why. What a great man, wish he was my grandpa so I can absorb more philosophy and understanding.
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The truth will set you free. Simple. We complicate everything, the truth hurts. We know all this but fear keeps us from being who we really are. We are on the verge of destruction if we the generation that has aquire all the wisdom from buddah, Jesus, muhhamed. And krishnumarti and yet still can't understand our true nature. We are done. Awaken your inner truth and see what we are doing.
Kingme300 (2 months ago) Show Hide
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instead of complcating then question to find the answer and vice versa we should understand what we are... understand yourself and speak to yourself... don't ask questions to the mind that it knows are there... simply speak inwardly and express outwardly
gwozdezzz (2 months ago) Show Hide
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damn shit, I don't knwo, who this guy is, but he talks very very intelligent things.
OnlyHereNow (2 months ago) Show Hide
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I think ignorance creates the lie. "Love" removes it. Love or compassion allows one to see others' suffering as his own. Then what I see outside becomes the mirror, bringing it back to me. Where do I suffer? Mostly, I cannot save people directly.Or stop wars directly. But I can see the same ignorance that starts wars is in me. In the end it is up to the individual to see his own conflicts. Individual change grows exponentially. I change, those around me change, those around them change, etc.
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That is the power of the seeming lone individual. He does not operate in a vacuum. He is connected, not seperate. In that, he is completely enough.

As for thinking and understanding, I agree it has its useful place. But don't you think the "love" you talk about is more experiential and possibly transcends the thinking mind?
turbosamvara (2 months ago) Show Hide
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True understanding is just an experiential. Conventionally, what is called understanding is not what I mean. Not just thinking. So, yes, but if we can make this distinction between understandings. When it becomes the master instead of the servant is when thinking becomes the problem.
Thinking without love is cold and uncaring. Love without thinking is babbling gibberish. I feel a balance needs to be struck between the two and if both are not developed together one spoils the other.
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Now this becomes an even subtler conversation. What is the nature of true understanding and love? Does any definition suffice? Maybe the only way to get close is only by seeing what it is not? By perceiving our ignorance, do we then come to understanding?

Is there inwardly an even deeper nature than we are presently aware that can inform our thinking nature, understanding and love? In which, no developement is necessary, but automatic and organic?
turbosamvara (2 months ago) Show Hide
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Understanding and love seem to be emergent properties of human behavior. This is the old joke of the woman getting chopped and half and the philosopher. Someone asks how the trick is done and the philosopher says, "Well, you see, the magician doesn't really chop the woman in half."
You cannot know a thing by knowing what it is not. It can help you in other ways, but not to find truth.

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