Present! - Pim van Lommel (part one) Consciousness Beyond Life

Mel Van Dusen interviews renowned cardiologist Pim van Lommel about his research into the near-death experience and it's implications for a radically new paradigm for living in the 21st century.

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[epgomez]

A lot of these testimonies will come. We are eternal. No time no space.

[hallmark2012]

Seems reasonable to consider whether 'fields' might be part of the reason for these experiences.

Looking at work by Frohlich & McCormick, Albrecht-Buehler, Stuart Hameroff, Anirban Bandyopadhyay, Johnjoe McFadden, Henrik Ehrsson, and Sheldrake etc. It seems entirely plausible to me, that occasionally, a viable, but suddenly powered-down, dysfunctional brain may occasionally be re-synchronised by external fields from other living organisms.

[hallmark2012]

Pam's case is widely misrepresented. Following the timeline of the procedure she underwent, the OBE recollections she reports are of parts of the procedure 'before' her blood was drained.

[hallmark2012]

Er, yes, I guess so, as long as it's also accepted that biological organisms use fields.

[David Ban]

It's not impossible.. If They confirm brain death at 12:00pm and confirm it 3 different ways.. No brain activity.. Then when the person is brought back they describe all the activities and they correlate with those who were in the room at the time, that is empirical proof %100.

[David Ban]

And keep in mind, this proceedure could only be performed with no brain activity.

[David Ban]

There is one known case where they stopped the brain activity and withdrew all blood to the brain to stop a fatal brain anurism, while they performed surgery. She had no brain activity confirmed 3 seperate ways. During this time she had the most amazing out of body experience. She described the proceedure, and things that happened during the whole proceedure as well as the experience will all her loved ones. Check out the C2C episode where Ian Punetter reads paragraphs from the book.

[roastybeer]

*KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK* I GOTTA USE THE CAN PLZ TALK SOMEWHERE ELSE

[Anthony Trosclair]

You believe the experiences are biological?

[kitchitwee]

I'm sure it's been considered, but it seems like they're ruling out the possibility that NEDs could be taking place at the onset of cardiac arrest, just before the brain becomes inactive, or perhaps immediately upon resuscitation. I'm intuitively inclined to believe the non-local consciousness interpretation, but I still think it's important to consider all the possibilities in any kind of scientific research.