When Ireland Starved Episode 2 The Irish Holocaust (Part 1 of 3)

The Great Famine was a period of great starvation, disease and emigration in Ireland between 1845 and 1852 during which the islands population dropped by 20-25 percent. Approximately one million people died and a million more emigrated from Ireland. The proximate cause of famine was a potato disease commonly known as potato blight. Although blight ravaged potato crops throughout Europe during the 1840s the impact and human cost in Ireland where a third of the population was entirely dependent on the potato for food was exacerbated by a host of political, social, and economic factors which remain the subject of historical debate. The famine was a watershed in the history of Ireland. Its effects permanently changed the islands demographic, political and cultural landscape. For both the native Irish and those in the resulting diaspora, the famine entered folk memory and became a rallying point for various nationalist movements.

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[TheYoungshyne]

soon there going to kill innocent Muslim people and the media is going to play a big part , then a couple years after they make a movie about it .. there going to kill another group of people. THAT IS HOW THE WORLD WORKS

[shadowkitty56]

@ChaosDynamics and the seats in the House of Lords (hereditary and Protestant) remained unchanged. Not the best representation for your starving Galway farmer.

And as for religious freedom, how is it freedom when one must pay tithe and tax to a church one does not attend....or get evicted for not sending their child to the Protestant school?

[shadowkitty56]

@ChaosDynamics or fish: over time, the ability to do both was lost as the plots of land got tinier and tinier and the rivers and lakes fell under the jurisdicition of the Lords, not to mention their bounty. The deck was stacked after generations of neglect and outright degredation.

Emancipation, though a nice thought, allowed Catholics to vote and sit in Parliament, but it was notable that only the rare rich Catholic landowner got elected MP (CONT)

[shadowkitty56]

@ChaosDynamics it was almost impossible to train as a physician (most school lessons included one's catechism, and the Church of Ireland used the Book of Common Prayer as a means of instruction and indoctrination in a creed unwelcome by Catholic parents.)

The total sum of these punitivie measures created a population that was illiterate, impoverished, and relegated to an underclass. It was so bad that the Catholic Irish had largely forgotten how to farm (CONT)

[shadowkitty56]

@ChaosDynamics 80% of Ireland was Catholic in those years. The other 20% came from Quakers, Church of Ireland, and Presbyterians. Prior to emancipation the Ascendancy held all the cards. No educating your children. A whole mess of red tape involving property rights-eventually you and your neighbors would lose whatever you had over a few generations. No voting rights. No admission to the bar or the bench. With Catholic teachers banned from teaching (and no Catholics desiring to convert) CONT

[shadowkitty56]

@ChaosDynamics His London overlords looked down upon him as vermin; the use of the phrase taig is recorded as early as the 1770s. The Irish were never lazy. They scrambled just to survive in Ireland and as immigrants they built up Boston and New York and eventually the prospered handsomely. The Somalis that make it to America today are also doing quite well, growing their vegetable gardens and sending their kids to school. All they need, like the Irish, is a chance to grow.

[shadowkitty56]

@ChaosDynamics The Irish had the sad misfortune of being Catholic and on the losing side of the Williamite Wars. From thence onward, the fabric of the society unraveled: no legal freedom, no voting priveleges. No economic freedom, no choice in trade. Education of the young was restricted, literacy dropped and written Irish all but disappeared. Religious freedom was limited-the Catholic farmer still had to pay a tithe to the Church of Ireland and its bishop even if he never set foot there.

[shadowkitty56]

@ChaosDynamics You are joking, right? Please tell me you are writing this just to be a troll.

But just in case...

First off, the Irish were Catholics living under a Protestant crown. Normally, this would be no problem, but given the tangled history of Britain with the Catholic Church (the Stuarts=disaster, the Guy Fawkes incident, the deep mistrust of the Pope going back to the Tudors, etc.) these were not a likely cast of characters to show mercy or tolerance. CONT

[gaffneyal]

The irish were very hardworking people. I take strong offense to those who call them lazy. You should do your research better if you want to call names and make accusations

[marsi1952]

Chaos person, I had to read your comment 3 times, I could not believe that someone would say 1.5 mill Irish died because of being LAZY?? how about the 5K Irish that fled to America? gez that is Rep/TEA PARTY nonsense talking. Were the Jews LAZY TOO? how about the Black Slavery & Irish Slavery? maybe you should go to Somalia LIVE see a genocide going on, to see what it is like. Get out of the DARK. go to: " invisible children".. then Look in the mirror, make a change. Stop thinking like that.