Irrational Atheism #1

How do you know what you know? In this short video, we examine a basic yet profound assumption in order to see which worldview really leads to knowledge.

Category:

Education

Tags:

• Atheist
• Bible
• Christian
• Jesus

[jerico641]

No, sorry, the issue IS evidence..and religion offers none.

[JesusIsUrSaviour]

@jerico641 No, the issue is your rebellious heart. The fact that you can make that statement proves that your hatred of God and his righteousness has made you "willingly ignorant" (2 Pet 3:5) of the abundance of prophetic, historic, scientific, and experiential evidence that Jesus Christ is Lord. But if there is no God, why should we care about evidence? How do you learn and persuade and reason with someone if we're all just chemical reactions in a blind, random struggle for life?

[indiankingkong]

@JesusIsUrSaviour

Where is the evidence? The Bible is just as much evidence as the Rig Veda, the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Koran. What prophecies that are not vague, such as "there will be wars" came true? Which one came true outside the bible and how is it proof that jesus is god? Isreal, men made isreal, it just didn't appear out of the ground? Historic evidence? Jesus exists only in the bible some non canonical gospels and one line in jophesus? At least Muhammed is independently verified.

[JesusIsUrSaviour]

@indiankingkong Here you betray your own ignorance of the Bible; e.g., the Bible gives the year, the tribe, even the city from which the Messiah would come.  It spoke of how he was born, where he would be born, what time he would be born in vivid detail. There are at least 48 prophecies of his first coming, and more of his second. But look at your assumptions...why isn't the Bible a historical document? Because it disagrees with YOUR assumptions.

[JesusIsUrSaviour]

@indiankingkong Look how biased you are...there is plethora more evidence of Jesus Christ life, death, and resurrection: from fulfilled prophecy, archaeological confirmation, internal consistency of 40 authors from 1900 years across three continents...extrabiblical witnesses like Josephus (whom you discount), tacitus (whom you fail to mention)...

[JesusIsUrSaviour]

@indiankingkong Rather, you put the Koran...written by ONE man who suffered from either demon possession or some form of epilepsy...and claimed to have gotten the revelation from an angel (Gabriel). The Koran contradicts itself, plagiarizes sections of the Old Testament, and claims there is a swamp where the sun descends every day. But THAT is "independently verified?" By whom? Christ-rejecting heretics and rebels like yourself who want to exuse their own sin and ignore hell? Hardly..

[Cafeeine]

What a mess. You start out with presuppositionals, you conflate epistemic questions with moral ones, you misinterpet both atheism and evolution and at the end you just stick the bible into the story as a complete non-sequitur.

Better read some more logic textbooks.

[infinit888]

How can you fail so hard? You make the presupposition of the existence of 'true' and 'right' then you read the bible came to the conclusion that it's 'true' (awesome mental gymnastics aside) and then use it to support your initial presupposition.

What do you think you've shown with this junkyard of an argument? It's hopelessly circular!

[phookadude]

So true; pork, shellfish, underwear, poly-cotton blends and abolition of slavery are all obviously immoral. The judeo-christian god, muderer of babies and punisher of the innocent is obviously the source of morality.

[Johnf85]

more typical religious riddles and blabbing away! human chromosome 2 is not a fucking riddle there is nothing to presuppose here. it is what it is.

the hypocrisy is nearly killing me here. you say both parties are tyring to prove right and wrong and there is no right and wrong yet jesus is the way the truth and the light. you like most religious folks, liek to word smith everything, and create the rules for a conversation so that the atheist view is "self refuting". sorry buddy show facts!

[jehallhelo]

My dear brother in Christ, you must quit wasting your time trying to prove that God exists. No one needs proof that he exists. His existance is axiomatic or self evident. When the Lord said "the fool says in his heart there is no god" the word fool means willingly ignorant. You already know that is the sinner's problem. However, you must also remember that he is blinded by his sin. Would you get angry with a blind man for tripping over what cannot see? The same applies to the sinner....

[indiankingkong]

@JesusIsUrSaviour

I said mohammed's own existence has been independently verified, outside of the Koran.

The bible makes plenty of contradictions too.

[indiankingkong]

@JesusIsUrSaviour

As i said before, Aside from one sentence in Josephus, there isn't a shred off evidence that Jesus existed. If there is, prove it. Provide it.

There certainly isn't any archaeological evidence, if there was, it would be heralded as the greatest discovery of the modern age. There would be Nobel prizes. Etc.

[indiankingkong]

@JesusIsUrSaviour

Where is the evidence? The Bible is just as much evidence as the Rig Veda, the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Koran. What prophecies that are not vague, such as "there will be wars" came true? Which one came true outside the bible and how is it proof that Jesus is god? Israel, men made Israel, it just didn't appear out of the ground? Historic evidence? Jesus exists only in the bible some non canonical gospels and one line in Josephus? At least Muhammad is independently verified.