@belajalagi We can't make one, because one has already been made, I don't understand what you want me to make. If you think it is the most beautiful, eloquent, and most profound literature you've seen, it's totally subjective; in my opinion I've read much more beautiful poetry and much more profound texts. Yes, I've read the Quran, although not in it's entirety, and it doesn't seem any special than anything else I've read from that period of time, let alone from modern literature.
I have never once gotten a Muslim to admit he is choosing meanings of the verses to fit his own ideas. Yet they all admit there are may ways of reading the verses and they say not all meanings of the Arabic words are intended.
You still didn't even respond to what I said. I doubt you can even reason at all. Do they have you so brainwashed as you can't even make a case for yourself. Just claiming you are right is good enough, eh?
"because arabic langauge has many many words to discribe 1 event,"
You say that your interpretation is "proof", ok so you have chosen meanings that match what you want to them to mean. But this can not be proof. It is only proof of YOUR knowledge.
"the lion has 80 names "
So? They all mean lion do they not? What you really want to say is that one word means many different things. YOU of course will claim you have the "correct" meaning.
Abdullah Yusuf Ali: (21:44) See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders?
Pickthall: See they not how we visit the land, reducing it of its outlying parts?
what is that PROOF of? That you can interpret this as a shrinking Earth, when it is obviously talking about invaders taking land from others. "Can they then be the victors?"
proof: 1- chapter 21 verse 44 ( about the same of the earth) 2- chapter 39 verse 5 ( about the shape of the earth) 3- chapter 36 verse 40 ( about the motion of the sun and earth) 4- chapter 36 verse 38 ( about the motion of the sun)
if you want i can explain the arabic meaning for you, the translation didn't fit the actual meaning because arabic langauge has many many words to discribe 1 event, for example the lion has 80 names in arabic language!
"And the sun runs on to a term appointed for it..."
"this shows that sun and the whole universe is not fixed"
Actually forget it. You have already given your proof. You didn't even respond to what I said. I will not repeat myself. You are so arrogant.
"i really respect your way of thinking, "
You lie.
If i learn Arabic will I see that when it mentions 'the Sun' then 'the entire Universe' is meant? Bull. You are such a liar. The Sun having a path means the universe is expanding?
@belajalagi We can't make one, because one has already been made, I don't understand what you want me to make. If you think it is the most beautiful, eloquent, and most profound literature you've seen, it's totally subjective; in my opinion I've read much more beautiful poetry and much more profound texts. Yes, I've read the Quran, although not in it's entirety, and it doesn't seem any special than anything else I've read from that period of time, let alone from modern literature.
pepo91088 3 weeks ago
u will go to hell
crowsiz16 1 year ago
If you think quran is man made..try make one yourself..try your best..
belajalagi 1 year ago
I have never once gotten a Muslim to admit he is choosing meanings of the verses to fit his own ideas. Yet they all admit there are may ways of reading the verses and they say not all meanings of the Arabic words are intended.
You still didn't even respond to what I said. I doubt you can even reason at all. Do they have you so brainwashed as you can't even make a case for yourself. Just claiming you are right is good enough, eh?
DayfallKat 2 years ago
"because arabic langauge has many many words to discribe 1 event,"
You say that your interpretation is "proof", ok so you have chosen meanings that match what you want to them to mean. But this can not be proof. It is only proof of YOUR knowledge.
"the lion has 80 names "
So? They all mean lion do they not? What you really want to say is that one word means many different things. YOU of course will claim you have the "correct" meaning.
DayfallKat 2 years ago
"A token unto them is night. We strip it of the day, and lo! they are in darkness. And the sun runneth on unto a resting place for him."
The sun does not go to a resting place at night. That is just ignorant.
DayfallKat 2 years ago
39:5 doesn't mention the earth. The night and day were domes that covered the earth.
36:40 "It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit."
"about the motion of the sun and earth"
Earth isn't mentioned.
DayfallKat 2 years ago
Proof?
Abdullah Yusuf Ali: (21:44) See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders?
Pickthall: See they not how we visit the land, reducing it of its outlying parts?
what is that PROOF of? That you can interpret this as a shrinking Earth, when it is obviously talking about invaders taking land from others. "Can they then be the victors?"
Such deception you have.
DayfallKat 2 years ago
proof: 1- chapter 21 verse 44 ( about the same of the earth) 2- chapter 39 verse 5 ( about the shape of the earth) 3- chapter 36 verse 40 ( about the motion of the sun and earth) 4- chapter 36 verse 38 ( about the motion of the sun)
if you want i can explain the arabic meaning for you, the translation didn't fit the actual meaning because arabic langauge has many many words to discribe 1 event, for example the lion has 80 names in arabic language!
Monah84 2 years ago
"And the sun runs on to a term appointed for it..."
"this shows that sun and the whole universe is not fixed"
Actually forget it. You have already given your proof. You didn't even respond to what I said. I will not repeat myself. You are so arrogant.
"i really respect your way of thinking, "
You lie.
If i learn Arabic will I see that when it mentions 'the Sun' then 'the entire Universe' is meant? Bull. You are such a liar. The Sun having a path means the universe is expanding?
DayfallKat 2 years ago