...Martino is a very artistic product of our time with influence lines from serialism in the American school but also from the german Romanticism, specially from Schumann, but above all is an original voice that lives in his wonderful music.
and yes the cultural and historic power of the tonality tradition has today a great influence in several ways we construct, think & enjoy music, but it also exist the other influences even more radical than the Carter, Babbitt, et al, musics.
I agree with you in the example you write down, however that example perhaps not match or reflect reality. Right now in a international music scenario with a plurality of musical styles and even musical systems, Modernism and Post-Modernism expressions coexist in an nutritive way...
@JackN7Old My teacher of Composition Class used to say: "Listening to Music is like listening to Poetry... If a poem is written in German and you can't understand German, then you can't establish whether you like it or not. Tonal music lived for centuries and it has been affected by thousand of historical re-design. If Bach heard the actual tonal music he would say that's not music. Now, we are even talking about a non-tonal music, with different rules from the tonal one... a different language!
@ogskeetdizzle True, there is math everywhere. But must everything be thought of at such a technical level? There is a point in which math, science, "technique" shuns out the music. Music is emotion, feeling, indescribable form of unique spiritual communication. If you're always trying to find the logic and mathematical side in it, you're going to miss out on it's true meaning and purpose.
@ogskeetdizzle "all music is based on mathematics" is a very Avant-Gard statement. Not all music is based on mathematics, in fact, very little is. Music is much more than just for someone with an "intellectual mind" to appreciate. Still, this is music and it should be given a chance. I personally being a classical musician (a cellist) do not care for this type of music. Music should not all be about requiring the listener to engage in some deep cerebral process in order to find meaning.
@ogskeetdizzle tbh if you dont reply i guess you retreat from the discussion? because i find it interesting to talk to someone who is actually interested in this provoking way of making music...
...Martino is a very artistic product of our time with influence lines from serialism in the American school but also from the german Romanticism, specially from Schumann, but above all is an original voice that lives in his wonderful music.
9mercurio9 7 months ago
and yes the cultural and historic power of the tonality tradition has today a great influence in several ways we construct, think & enjoy music, but it also exist the other influences even more radical than the Carter, Babbitt, et al, musics.
9mercurio9 7 months ago
I agree with you in the example you write down, however that example perhaps not match or reflect reality. Right now in a international music scenario with a plurality of musical styles and even musical systems, Modernism and Post-Modernism expressions coexist in an nutritive way...
9mercurio9 7 months ago
@JackN7Old My teacher of Composition Class used to say: "Listening to Music is like listening to Poetry... If a poem is written in German and you can't understand German, then you can't establish whether you like it or not. Tonal music lived for centuries and it has been affected by thousand of historical re-design. If Bach heard the actual tonal music he would say that's not music. Now, we are even talking about a non-tonal music, with different rules from the tonal one... a different language!
bearsrider 7 months ago
@OliveCelloColin i play guitar, drums, bass, and keyboards, i am not missing out on anything.
ogskeetdizzle 1 year ago
@ogskeetdizzle True, there is math everywhere. But must everything be thought of at such a technical level? There is a point in which math, science, "technique" shuns out the music. Music is emotion, feeling, indescribable form of unique spiritual communication. If you're always trying to find the logic and mathematical side in it, you're going to miss out on it's true meaning and purpose.
OliveCelloColin 1 year ago
@OliveCelloColin
if you want to get technical the air you breathe the water you drink, everything around you contains mathematics....
ogskeetdizzle 1 year ago
@ogskeetdizzle "all music is based on mathematics" is a very Avant-Gard statement. Not all music is based on mathematics, in fact, very little is. Music is much more than just for someone with an "intellectual mind" to appreciate. Still, this is music and it should be given a chance. I personally being a classical musician (a cellist) do not care for this type of music. Music should not all be about requiring the listener to engage in some deep cerebral process in order to find meaning.
OliveCelloColin 1 year ago
@ogskeetdizzle tbh if you dont reply i guess you retreat from the discussion? because i find it interesting to talk to someone who is actually interested in this provoking way of making music...
runescapemichbla 1 year ago
@ogskeetdizzle its funny how your comment is filled with preconceived opinions... all wrong btw
runescapemichbla 1 year ago