Freewill and the Science of Determinism
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@NBTY4ever ahhh your just saying that because you were predetermined too! :)
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@chefshitpiece Nice model. Free will is a fail.
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Our lives are based on our decisions
Our decisions are based on our perspective.
Our perspective is based on our personality.
Our personality is located in the orbital layer of the pre-frontal cortex.
Our brain's wiring is determined by our DNA.
Our DNA is luck.
Therefore, Luck Is Everything (L.I.E. Theory).
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The term will is variously related to desire, intention or choice and their relationship to pursuing needs, actions and preferences. Pursuing needs is innate,.We clearly do not always have freedom to act as we please. There is no proof when we reflect on a choice having matched a preference that it was predetermined or due to the exercise of free will.. Choices, more often than not ,are the spontaneous culmination of appraising what ensures survival or serves our perceived best interests.
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So, yes, thanks. Probably you pointed out evolution - it should notice us about dynamics of morality, which shuffles order of these layers? Nice thought, I will hold that. I am also in love with quiet, long term and bilateral debate, with deep sentiments to it. Concrete, focused, located and temporal discussions are flesh eating...
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Hello again Konikula - long time no see eh...
Well, self/individual/identity/socie
ty come to mind as culturally defined sets of ideated social relationships (memes), yet base biology often conspires w/intellect/values/ morals & our ability to cohabitate/share resources prudently - there are many ideologies re: the above - yet circumstances constantly arise, naturally adapting/evolving of their own accord - so all is as it should be then, right... thoughts? -
I am good at sclerosis :) So what should we point out as highest social/cognitive order layer of subject/individual?
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From the memes eye viewpoint, there are no little selves inside our heads, making
the decisions and looking out at the world. Instead, there are just a collection of
competing memes building up the illusion of a self. This new view fits not only with
the latest research in neuroscience, but with many spiritual traditions in which the task
is to realize the self is an illusion.
Dr Susan Blackmore
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Haha. I like you. =)
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In order to prove determinism, one would need to trace every action to the beginning of the Universe and vice versa. If the initial conditions of the Universe determine everything in our life today, then we will never solve the question if it does. For if we did, we could determine the future actions of ourselves and thus "choose" to reject them based on the information you obtained, thus contradicting the given statement. Basically, it is not possible to absolutely prove determinism.
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UHHGH!!! you guys talk so slow! get to the point, and quit trying to use big words if you can't think of them or pronounce them.use curse/crude words if it gets the points across faster/better. You should really prepare the arguement beforehand instead of winging it because it's just detremental to the discussion.
skulldaggery 4 years ago
...and your contribution to the discussion at hand was what? People are people...we communicate differently, we speak differently, and we choose our words differently. If you can't handle people expressing themselves in different ways, then stick to talking to yourself and be happy. If cursing is the only way you can understand another human being, stop listening to my words, because I will not change my delivery.
picassolama 4 years ago
Ah, okay. This made a lot more sense to me. I'll watch it again, maybe jot down some notes, and give a few responses to some of your points in a video soon. Thanks!
burnvictim77 5 years ago
I look forward to your response.
picassolama 5 years ago
UGH!!! what IS YOU POINT?!?!?! Do you actually know anything you're talking about? If so you're not getting that to me. What is your the difference between consciousness and spirit in your opinion?
ARRRGHHH your incoherent ramblings are irritating me..
You have no idea what you're saying.
skulldaggery 4 years ago
In reply to your question. Consciousness a level of awareness to one's spirit. Spirit is the energy which connects us to all other energy in the universe. They are not the same thing in my opinion. Your subconscious is more aware of your true being than when you're in an awake state. What's your opinion?
picassolama 4 years ago