"The Shack" in Light of the Bible with guest Larry DeBruyn

Here is the link to listen to the entire program and/or download the mp3:
http://www.crosstalkamerica.com/shows/2008/07/the_shack_in_light_of_the_bibl.php


Host: Ingrid Schlueter
Guest: Larry DeBruyn

Pastor Larry DeBruyn is the pastor of Franklin Road Baptist Church in Indianapolis, Indiana. He's the author of the book: Church on the Rise: Why I'm Not a Purpose Driven Pastor.

Ingrid began this edition of Crosstalk by mentioning a popular book entitled, The Shack, by William Young. She encouraged listeners to call if they had heard of the book, and the phone lines filled rapidly. Callers gave various brief testimonies, proving how word-of-mouth promotion is causing many to become aware of this book.

According to Pastor DeBruyn, Young is the child of missionary parents in New Guinea. While he was an MK, he was abused by the very tribal people his parents were trying to reach; abuse which is said to have continued while he was in missionary school. Being an allegory, Pastor DeBruyn believes The Shack is an attempt by Young to work out some of his reservations about God and some of the things that happened to him.

The problem with this book is the counterfeit trinity that it presents. The representations of each individual in this allegorical trinity have serious defects. Pastor DeBruyn explains these defects from the Bible with great simplicity and clarity, proving that The Shack, regardless of its high-profile endorsements, is best avoided.


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[pianohbc]

When Jesus was on trial He did not try to win the argument by constantly arguing back- His silence said far more about His character and being- He is our example- Love your enemies He said- not continue arguing until you are blue in the face. Perhaps the silence of Jesus should be our example here.

[pianohbc]

As I said- what has happened between you and them would not stop me discussing Scripture with you but you are weighing my knowledge of Scripture on the fact that I have them as friends therefore as I said it is not in your best interest or mine to continue talking on this heresy

[tumbleweeeeeed]

@pianohbc - Are you kidding? Have you ever read the Bible? Do the words "Wolves", "White-washed tombs" and "the offspring of vipers" ring any bells with you? Have you never read II Peter or Jude or the strident way Paul speaks about the false teachers who had polluted the churches at Galatia? The appalling ignorance of today's professing Christians concerning their duty to defend the faith is beyond belief - Is.56:10.

[josiahdocscurlock]

HERE is proof that even a wonderful annointed book like " the shack" that emphesizes Gods Love, will be attacked by religious fanatics ! Some of you critics simply need to stop being religous and meet Jesus.

[spaztikification]

Here is a video that breaks down the Theology of The Shack:

gci.org/yi/kruger69

This website also has 3 interviews with Paul Young regarding the book.

gci.org/category/people/willia­m-p-young

[KeyboardPacifist]

@Utopiang Yet in, 'The Shack,' Papa explains to Mack, multiple times that Christ will live in Him and dwell with him. That IS THE SHACK, as a metaphor. The very meaning of The Shack is Young's acceptance that God, through the work of Christ on the cross - can now live and dwell with us. And since Young also explains that we can not judge God - this contradicts your accusation that Young believes that God had to atone to us - since this is exactly what you are saying in your reconcilation point

[KeyboardPacifist]

@Utopiang So you think that The Father can not see the Sheol? That contradicts other Psalms of David who says that the Father will not help him in the Sheol, but can see and hear him. Psalms 22 is not a prophecy of declaring the 3rd century trinitarian view. Psalms was exactly what Christ saw and felt. Christ, in his agony, did not footnote the right time and place to "quote psalms 22." He lived it. David saw it... a seer, an oracle of YHWH .. he wrote it down.

[KeyboardPacifist]

@Utopiang That's an interesting story you've made "sky darkness = face turned away" .. but it's an invention. An interesting one, full of imagination, but an invention nonetheless. Isaiah never states that Christ was abandoned, nor does Peter. Have you considered that Moses and Enoch were never declared sinless, yet they were in His Sight. Have you considered that Satan, full of sin, goes to His Throne and within His Sight daily. Habakkuk when cited in context, does not contradict this

[KeyboardPacifist]

@Utopiang &ou believe that God is in a separate realm called Heaven & not also on Earth? Doesn't the bible say different. The bible tells us in more than 2 witnesses that God The Father is in all. This does not mean that His Holy Breath fills every vessel. At the cross, Christ did not feel The Holy Breath of God - indwelling his tent. The Bible does not state that The Father actually left Christ - but that Christ could not feel God - otherwise, David would contradict himself in multiple Psalms

[Godlovestruth]

Please watch my series on the The truth about the Trinity if you want to see tons of scriptures on what the bible teaches us to believe. God bless!

[Utopiang]

(4) Interestingly, you will note in Young's book that When Mack asks what Jesus accomplished by dying he is told, “Through his death and resurrection, I am now fully reconciled to the world.” God further explains that He is reconciled to “the whole world,” not just the believer (p. 192). The Bible teaches that the world is reconciled to GOD, not the other way around, this is no small difference (Rom.5:10, 2 Cor.5:20 1 Cor. 1:21).

I hope that this is helpful to you, brother. God bless you.

[Utopiang]

(3) Christ was rejected by the Father in the same way that the unredeemed will be abandoned when they are judged after death - cast out of God's presence. He will forever turn His face from them. Jesus was fully human, yes, but he was always fully GOD and he deliberately quoted Psalm 22:1 in fulfillment of the prophecy. This was to prove to us that He was forsaken by God in our place.