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[TheBigLebbowskii]

@IRHari

"No matter who is in power, Wall Street will be bailed out if they want to be.

You have to admit, it's a little ironic that in order to save Capitalism, W turned to Socialism."

Yeah, I admit that. W was wrong. He was an idiot. . What the fuck is your point? I mean seriously, your telling me, its ironic bush did this, and its annoying Washington and Wall street are doing that. Are you arguing with me, IDK, all your doing is repeating tired shit which I already know!

[TheBigLebbowskii]

@IRHari

"Uh that intertwining was not a result of TARP/Bailouts."

First off, why the Uh?

Second off, I never said that. The Tarp and Bailouts are completely in tow of a culture which has existed between Washington and Wall Street for years, I admit that. However, the Tarp and the Bailouts also included a shit load of government strings attached . The government owns more and more of Wall Street does it not?

[IRHari]

@TheBigLebbowskii

Uh that intertwining was not a result of TARP/Bailouts. It's been happening way before that. How many of the last 4 Treasury Secretaries have had connections with Goldman Sachs? TARP/Bailouts was the reward of the intertwining between gov't and Wall Street.

No matter who is in power, Wall Street will be bailed out if they want to be.

You have to admit, it's a little ironic that in order to save Capitalism, W turned to Socialism.

[TheBigLebbowskii]

But really, that says nothing. Palin is a politician. Changing her ideology to fit the political headwinds is typical of her breed.

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The fact that Obama is giving money to corporations in no way contradicts the label socialist. After all, would you deny that the net result of much of the Tarp and Bailouts was that the government is even more intertwined with the large corporations? And of course, this phenomenon is a hallmark of Socialist governments everywhere. Just look at Red China.

[TheBigLebbowskii]

@IRHari

Like it or not, Palin would still govern from the Right, regardless of what she said there. She would be an incompetent leader, but she would at least make an attempt to govern using the same principals she ran on, and I like those principals better than Socialism. But really, when you think about it, its not like Palin was ever a particularly right wing persona, she has just adopted said policies to be in lockstep with the TeaParty, which is politically convenient for her.

[IRHari]

@TheBigLebbowskii

Only reason why I replied to you with that quote was because you said you'd vote for Palin, but at the same time you said Socialism is evil.

When Obama gives billions of dollars to banks and gives insurance companies millions of new customers, and gives defense contractors billions in no-bid contracts, would you still call that Socialism?  Technically it's still 'redistribution of wealth'. The wealth is spraying up, not trickling down.

[TheBigLebbowskii]

@IRHari

Dont pull that out on me. This conversation started beacuse I said I hated Palin as a politician. I don't need to be told she's probably a hypocrite. Watch123456 decided however, to ask why I would still vote for Palin over Obama and I gave my reasons. That quote means nothing to me, other than, unsurprisingly, Palin used to be a far more moderate politician who was perfectly willing to ride the socialist tide. The truth is she never had any real conservative bona fides to begin with.

[IRHari]

@TheBigLebbowskii

"And Alaska—we’re set up, unlike other states in the union, where it’s collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs. … It’s to maximize benefits for Alaskans, not an individual company, not some multinational somewhere, but for Alaskans." -Sarah Palin

[TheBigLebbowskii]

You asked me why I would vote for Palin over Obama. Because from my point of view, I view Obama's ideology as fundamentally flawed and irrational, IE Evil. That is my honest opinion and if you want to argue with that I suggest you attack my statements with logical arguments supported by fact. If you want me to explain why I think Socialism is evil, then I won't hesitate to say so, and if you want me to explain why I think Obamas a socialist I wont hesitate to do that neither.

[TheBigLebbowskii]

@watch123456

I'm assuming that you are a liberal of some sort or another. Do you not view conservatism, especially of the more radical type,as evil? I do not think people are necessarily evil if they believe something evil, and I dont think people who believe the right thing are saints. I view Obama's Socialist ideology as evil beacuse I view Socialism as evil. Its that simple, and I'm unafraid to say it. If you disagree you can either argue he is not a socialist or that socialism is not evil.