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@nocturnezero if there is only enough space for standing, how do you do things? do you shit and pee where you stand? when you say space for growing food, how do people farm when there is only room for standing? when you keep adding people on earth, space will eventually run out no matter how you manage the space available, so overpopulation is a concern. BUT, for your argument, current population is not a concern, yet.
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@nocturnezero I was going to do the maths but that number includes energy usages etc. and if we even wanted to produce enough energy to give everyone on the earth 5kW each without increases green house gasses by say 2025 we would be in the shitter. if you can watch Horizon Can we make a star on earth. And it really give you the scale of the problem of energy production that we have.
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@Etheoma The idea is that we shouldn't institute rational and reasonable agricultural techniques so that starving people in third-world countries can survive because some comfortable people in the first world don't want to eat vegetables?
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@nocturnezero But who want's to live off of crops alone ok you have veggies but I HATE most vegetables. and yes I know that if we all lived like Ethiopians we could support 15 billion but its saying to your self what kind of life style do I want the future peoples of this earth to have. If we don't mind all living like your average china man yeah we could support the current 7 billion people on earth equally. but the Average china man doesn't live well.
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@gundamnduke0 Space isn't a concern. You could fit the population of the world inside Oklahoma with standing room. The population of the world could fit inside Jacksonville, FL if it had NYC-style housing and apartments all over it. Space to grow food might be a concern, but if rational and sustainable agricultural practices were instituted everybody could have their needs met with only minimal labour.
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@Etheoma We're using it up with entirely unsustainable practices. Of course it'll get used up quickly. We industrially produce meat products that require far more energy to produce than they provide to the consumer. We transport food huge distances, mostly to and across first-world countries. Farmland can be sustained by cycling out crops. Rational agricultural practices could meet the needs of 9 billion people and more.
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You might be interested in Pyotr Kropotkin's book "Fields, Factories, and Workshops." He was the main opponent of Thomas Malthus, who was claiming the world was overpopulated in much the same ways you disagree with - to explain away poverty and suffering and all that. Kropotkin basically describes how society could be structured to meet the needs of an expanding population and more. Might be interested.
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every way you look at the "overpopulation" scenario looks bad and heading to catastrophic results .Just stop and think what will happen in 10 years ,ok not so bad what about in 20 years still kind of ok what about in 50 years ,ok now we might have a slight problem but lets take it a notch higher . What about in 100 years ?? CAN YOU SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO WORLD POPULATION IN 100 YEARS ? .People claiming approval to overpopulation actually tend to not rationalize and think outside the box.
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58 national science academies disagree with this video, Overpopulation = unsustainability. 7 billion humans are using ecosystem services faster than they are replaced and/or recycled and rely on unsustainable fuels to maintain our numbers, no more cheap oil = no more food. In case the over-entitled/rich maker of the above video hasn't realised yet 80% of the world survives on less than $10 a day.1 billion of them are starving.He should sell his phone pronto....if he isn't a hypocrite that is.
so edgy and cool
MortonSeinfeld 4 months ago 16
Cognitive Dissonance Baby, Cognitive Dissonance!
ttaz4dqm 4 months ago 8