DominionOverWildlifeVantassel.wmv

Stephen M. Vantassel introduces his book, Dominion over Wildlife? An Environmental-Theology of Human-Wildlife Relations (Wipf and Stock, 2009). He explains that the arguments used by Christian Animal Rights activists fail to reject the eating of meat, hunting, and trapping fail to convince. In particular, Stephen shows that their arguments from Scripture, ethics, and science, when investigated more carefully, actually support the Church's traditional understanding of humanity's authority over animals. Stephen concludes by outlining how Christ wants humans to use the animal kingdom.

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• animal rights
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• trapping
• Stephen Vantassel
• wildlife
• hunting

[zaxtor]

Also another thing about this stupid religion It says this stupid slogan "god put animals for our use" and "god gave man dominion over land and sea", man abused his domination by overpopulating, sport hunting and trapping, torturing animals, drowning them and other bloodsports. People been deceived over a lie "god". You believe something invented by people you've never met. Also you use this stupid pathetic religion to harm animals.

Also the bible is pro-slavery and it abused humans a lot too.

[stephenvantassel]

@zaxtor Well Zaxtor, there are so many problems with your multiple comments that it is difficult to know where to begin. Let's deal with the slavery question. Clearly you haven't spent much time in the Bible. The bible acknowledges and allows slavery but there is nothing in the scripture that could be considered to be "pro-slavery". Just read the epistles to Timothy where slave traders are specifically condemned. I could go on but it's your job to get informed. Your're worth more than animals.

[zaxtor]

@stephenvantassel Bible says slavery is ok if regulated.

Slavery is never ok even regulated.

Now between animal and person values.

If is between my dog and some guy I never met, I'll choose my dog first.

If is between my dog and an endangered species that are seriously endangered. I'll choose its life before my dog. Dog is replacable.

If is between my family member and my dog. I'd choose family member.

If is between a friend and a dog, Friend goes first.

[stephenvantassel]

@zaxtor Well, Zaxtor, I am so pleased you got educated so quickly, although you still confuse what the bible tolerates with what it recommends (e.g. divorce). I find it strange that you are so dogmatic about the evils of slavery (I guess you haven't read Marx yet) but so open to preferring your dog to that of an unknown human. Intersting that the value of an unknown human is less than that of your dog. Now to finish the example, what is the value of the unknown human to slavery?

[zaxtor]

Since youtube only allows "500" chars limit.

I have a section on my sites about why endangered species life is more precious.

google "What is more precious human life or an endangered species life?" should be the 1st link

[zaxtor]

Unlikely your religion or most Christian are slaves and their religion control their behavior, views on the world etc.

Some will drop drugs and booze. Is good to get off this nasty stuff but over a lie is wrong.

But good because it gets the person off this stuff.

I never believed in god never smoked, never did drugs or drank.

Not because of religon but because of moral and INTELLIGENCE / CONSCIOUSNESS.

If I would be a drinker and quit is not because of religion is because of CONSCIOUS.

[zaxtor]

@stephenvantassel Human slavery is wrong.

Also many people by instinct will value their friends before a stranger;s life.

Is just like I'd save my brother's life before a stranger's life.

I'd save my sister's life before my dog's life. Not cus I hate the dog but because my family members are PRECIOUS same goes for friends.

Is call a bond, loving the person.

Karl Marx?

I'm not a believer in his "philosophy"

I have my own belief / personal religion, but it doesn't control my behavior nor views.

[zaxtor]

@stephenvantassel So if I invent a deity "god" will it be real?

No.

So it goes the same for Jesus his imaginary god is fake. Just like Jim Jones, Shoko Asahara, Marshall Applewhite and David Koresh's imaginary god are fake.

They were all like Jesus, maybe Jesus was the same as these horrible human beings. Who knows.

Putting your fate in the hands of Jesus is a bad idea because you've never met him.

Stuff written in the bible doesn't mean anything. Writers were probably his employers, liars etc.

[zaxtor]

@stephenvantassel Using a fictional god to promote speciesism is VERY wrong.

Is wrong as racism. This stupid religion promote genocide among non humans and man abused his "dominion" because of this non sense written by some loser a few thousands of years ago.

If god is real Santa Claus must be real so as the mermaid and the Na'vi from the film Avatar that were invented by normal person or people. People believing in god are a slave to a lie made up by NORMAL people they've never met.

[zaxtor]

@stephenvantassel Also a rare species life is more precious than a life of some guy I never met.

Because there is over 6 billion people on Earth and something rare is MORE precious because once is gone is gone forever.

If the bible says is not right. Screw the bible is written by normal people I have never met and they are anthropocentric / speciesism.

Saying the matarial in the bible is real is just as stupid as saying the material in Batman, Tintin, and Tommyknockers book's content are real

[zaxtor]

I do not oppose pet ownership nor zoos, I prefer zoos with enrichment and diversity so the animal stays happy and doesn't move backward and forward anxiously.

Also Christianity is the worst religion in the world almost worst as Islam and you're the worst human being in the universe. I saw your post on Dobbins forums. You're a despicable person. You're even mentioned on my site google "why I hate christianity soo much". It will explain why Christianity bad aside animal abuse. About human abuse.