G Man Water Boarding
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my guess is not even 1% of you who say this isn't the real thing haven't even tried one way/form of water-boarding. stfu you sheep
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PKA sent me
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Well if it hurts or frightens the suspect (which it does in case it actually involves asphyxiation, as the guy on top says) I'd say it's torture.
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This is not G-man, he hs a fucking suitcase and a suit, he also pronounces "s" wierdly. This guy is just some random douche
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they were barely putting any water on his face!!! this isn't real water boarding.. its a pussy simulation
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PFFF not even close to the real thing. What a baby.
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@aarrcchhoonntt No, drowning is death from asphyxia by liquid entering the lungs; if the practice of waterboarding is carried out for an extended session, death from asphyxia most certainly can and will occur. I was waterboarded last November by a SERE Operations instructor and an Army counterintelligence officer for a private demonstration, with the agreement that the single session would continue for 10 seconds after the dead man's handles were dropped.
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@RebelWrestler45 Using waterboarding as actual drowning is the wrong way to do it, as you'll probably be calling the EMT much sooner and more often than when done properly.
Demonstrations like those are harmful as they have nothing to do with real waterboarding. Everything that could have beenn fucked up was. The psychology, the confusion among the interrogators, positioning, no immobilization..
Those guys have absolutely zero knowledge or training about interrogation.
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OK but as far as I see it at present, life is more valuable to an individual than a thumb, a broken bone or any number of anatomical deficiencies. All the fancy words in the world (and don't get me wrong, I'm a final year History undergrad. - I'm used to big fancy words and ideas) cannot remove that fact from my ideology.
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@GoldenbanjoDJ I suggest you read Henry Shue's essay on torture; what you are doing is advocating a Machiavellian state, morality dictated by state myopic utilitarianism; by definition this violates both civil liberties and natural rights. Several of our civil liberties in the US sacrifice judicial efficacy and utilitarianism for the rights of the individual. The question of torture does not just involve its ethical legitimacy (as I would argue that its legit in certain scenarios), but efficacy.
This is not waterboarding, the real deal is alot worse... and you have to cover the entire face to begin with -.-
KarinMikazuki 2 years ago 12
They aren't pouring enough water.
axelasdf 1 year ago 2