Health Care Reform vs Compulsory Health Insurance

The Health Care Reform Bill has always been about compelling 50 million American who are currently uninsured to purchase an insurance policy. It has never been about reforming health care.

The US government already collects and spends more tax dollars per capita from Americans to support Medicare, Medicaid and other government paid health care than the United Kingdom, Canada or Sweden where every person is provided timely and quality healthcare at no cost to the person.

Even though Americans pay more taxes per capita for health care, 50 million Americans are uninsured and must pay the full cost of their health care out of their own pocket.

Countless millions more Americans who already pay more taxes per capita for health care than English, Canadian and Swedish citizens also pay excessive premiums for private health insurance, the expense of which is often shared by their employers.

Even after privately insured Americans pay taxes and insurance premium, they usually end up paying much more in deductables and copays.

Candians are working to reform health care by investing tax dollars to reduce waiting times in emergency rooms and to ensure that Canadian who need specialized surgical procedures can get them in a more timely manner.

Americans who also have problems with long waiting times and access to care and who already pay almost three times as mouch for health care are being told that the compulsory purchase of health insurance coupled with additional tax dollars for extending medicaid is health care reform.

Health care reform in America is nothing more than improving the profitability of the health care industry by forcing taxpayers to pay more taxes and compelling the uninsured into the insurance marketplace.

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[Boomer1949]

Well if Walmart can find a way to do it, I can't find it in the current bill, or in any of the mark ups. But it does sound like Walmart wouldn't endorse the bill unless there was some kind of profit in it for them. I agree with you there.

[zthustra]

The FREE plan is called Medicaid and countless Walmart employees qualify for it.

The Gov plan will subsidize non-Medicaid insurance up to 12%.

The Gov plan also subsizes employers but I don't know that Walmart will qualify for subsidy. But somehow, Walmart will pay less to insure its employees when this kicks in or they wouldn't endorse it.

[Boomer1949]

Well first of all there is no Gov Free Plan in the bill. There is the Exchange, which is a basket of private insurance policies which are subsidized by the gov. depending on the person's income for the individual and the yearly payroll for a company. None of which is entirely free to the company or to the individual

Walmart's payroll is too large to qualify, no matter how low the wages are they pay their employees.

[zthustra]

Walmart currently offers its employees insurance with Walmart participating. What I expect Walmart to do is offer their employees the government plan which will be cheaper than their current plan. Walmart employees earn so little they will probably get the government plan FREE and Walmrt's share will be less than their current share with private insurers.

I'm just guessing, but Walmart endorsed the Health Care Reform plan so they will save money somehow and taxpayors will cover the difference

[Boomer1949]

Walmart certainly would fall under "large business" and therefore would suffer a larger penalty out lined in the preceding section, not the one you quote that applies to small business with payrolls not exceeding $400,00 a year.

[aiyic]

Another myth that's never mentioned is that there is no free-market in Euro health-systems. There is plenty of free-marketing. Sales reps for pharma and orthopaedic companies are paid well. They deal with hospital admin, doctors and medical clinics too - selling their wares just the same as US, but without ridiculous ad-costs, with the sped up disclaimers at the very end of the ads.

My cousin worked for De Puy: company Passat and a salary of about 60-70k Euro, about $90k. Socialism huh!?

[aiyic]

You hit the nail on the head with your comments. It's funny seeing republocrats foaming at the mouth - the irony is that more people will be paying.

You should post this video as reply-videos to other clips, like this one: watch?v=dqR1zV80IQk

[zthustra]

I flirted with the idea of joining the Ron Paul Republicans, but most of them are old constitutionalists (aka right-wing, evangelical, nut-jobs).

I know a couple people with Move On and toyed with that, then I visited the Dem platform to see if the tent was big enough ... it's not.

I just can't see them as anything more than a morphing of the same thing, Demopublicans and Republicrats.

And Libertarians are NEVER going to have a seat at the table.

There's a BIGGER problem ...

[AncientAtheist]

Yeah, whenever I mention the GOP in a dismissive way - please don't interpret that to me that I am or approve of the Dems.

I see them like I would have, during WWII and analyzing despicable leaders, seen Mussolini or Hirohito.

(clever way of skirting Godwin's Law, eh?)

[zthustra]

Isn't it amazing!

The people who would benefit the most, who have the boot of the Man on their neck, who work the hardest and get the least are like dogs barking at the moon.

Your average Walmart employee would starve to death, get kicked out of their apartment and die with an infected ingrown tonail if it wasn't for government assistance.

The taxpayors have been subsidizing the immoral profits of Walmart for years.

Hillary was on the Walmart board of directors too! So much for dems!