Back to Han-Tang -- the original Chinese culture
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indeed but where is Manchuria now? It's fused into the blood and psyche of the Chinese nation.
Another culture into the melting pot of "Chinse culture" just like the Mongols. History makes fools of us all.
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Japanese language REALLY is "nothing remotely" close to any Chinese language. They are as different as Finnish is from Latin. The thing they have in common is called The East Asian Sprachbund, which is a result of influence, not relativity.
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@TaiGekTou all Chinese languages are SVO. There are no exceptions. Mandarin and Wu are the same, they're both Sino-Tibetan. I was simply pointing out your flaw in comparing Japanese, an unrelated language to a Sinitic language simply based on the category of pitch accent. I've only been "seemingly trying to" emphasize the fundamental foreignness of Japanese culture. How does alienating a culture equate to elevating a culture? And what makes you think I'm a "foreigner?"
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@F0reseer Of course it is. But you said "nothing remotely". Quoting dead books but you missed out the fact the Chinese languages are generally considered SVO but not always according to. But now you're comparing Mandarin and the 吳 languages as if they are the same. A few Japanese are not afraid to say that ancient China is their cultural father, and here you are a foreigner seemingly trying to make Japan the origin of the world. I am exarggerating, but I think you'll understand.
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@TaiGekTou I'm an anthropologist, not an anime fan.
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@TaiGekTou If I had wanted to bring up ninjas and samurais (although nothing quite like samurais ever existed in China's long history), don't you think I would have already. I'm not talking about superficial things. Shinto and Bushido are uniquely Japonic. The religiosity of Shinto is not found in any form in China. It is in fact one of the MOST categorically ABORIGINAL things that indubitably belong solely to the ancient Jomon and Yayoi cultures that started Japan.
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@TaiGekTou All the Sinitic languages are analytical and have SVO word order, lack inflection. Japanese, on the other hand, is agglutinative, has SOV word order, and highly inflected. Shangai dialects are lexically, phonologically, and grammatically MUCH closer to the rest of Sinitic languages than Japanese is. 吳 is not strictly a pitch accented language. It's fundamentally tonal, but in sentences, when spoken, tone sandhi's are formed rather than restrictive tones. Mandarin itself has this too.
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@TaiGekTou Of course I know Chinese is family of different languages. They're called Sinitic languages, a subbranch of the Sino-Tibetan Language Family. However, all the Sinitic languages are closely related, like all the Romance languages are. Your language comparisons are off base. Sub-saharan African languages are tonal, so is Mandarin, so is Vietnamese, so is Thai. But NONE of these languages have a genetic relationship.
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@F0reseer But I do not disagree that Japan has their original things. But of all things, you bring up Shinto and Bushido. And then, it's ninja and samurai, am I right? Forgive me for saying this, but these are things that very young anime fans of non-Japanese will tell me.
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@F0reseer I mean no disrespect, so please be civil with your comments. First you compared Japanese with Chinese languages. Did you know that Chinese is a family of different languages, and only within these languages are dialects that may or may not be somewhat mutually intelligible? They are just as different in grammar, phonology and lexicon. The 吳 variety of Chinese is a pitch accented language, very much like Japanese. Other languages have similarities in lexicon and grammar.
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@TaiGekTou How is it "apparent?" What exactly did I say that you can use to accuse me of knowing "nothing" about China? Enlighten me. Quote me, if you will. I will than respond by laughing, followed by an unassailable rebuttal....but mostly just laughing.
This should be a national patriotic song for China that replaces the old communist oriented ones like Without Communist There Will Be No New China, The East is Red, etc. This song more accurately reflects post Olympics China, its culture, its direction, its potential, and its national spirit
Yonaguni10000 2 years ago 11
Good Idea!
sharrysh 2 years ago