John Piper - If God wants me happy why do I suffer?

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[Pythagoras211]

You all are going to this man for answers? Seriously? I'll suggest a better possible solution to this problem. If God exists, there no way he is anything like a person, and therefore probably doesn't will things to happen - he has no agency.

[Firestarter30fly]

i am glad he said this it helps because i can see how my problems should be my servants not my conquers

[driksohn1]

@ilikezappa I can say the same about the evidence you present to. In fact, we can argue for days without calming down and talking it out and not have a verbal battle.

I would like to hear your stance on how you believe the world was created.

[abbyguy]

@ilikezappa No the word idiot was never used but you certainly inferred it. So you are agnostic. You want proof in order to believe. Some say that in order to have proof first you must believe.

Question. Why were there over three hundred prophecies that came true "JUST" about the coming of Jesus. His birth, how, by whom, place, lineage, when, what He would be called, who would see Him and on and on and on. It would have been impossible to fake. Don't take my word for it do a little research.

[ilikezappa]

@abbyguy I make no such claim ,as my position is agnostic. You ,conversely, are making the claim that the Bible is a reliable testament ,but there are testable claims within it that are in stark contrast to the available evidence. I don`t think I called you an idiot, I just don`t share your beliefs.

[abbyguy]

@ilikezappa Neither you nor I can explain how the universe started, but you arrogantly assume I am the idiot because I believe someone or something did. You claim it came from nowhere. Your opinion holds no more water than mine does. Who is the naive one in this instance, I say you are. So let people believe what they want to without attacking them for it.

[ilikezappa]

@abbyguy Don`t know. Wal Mart ? You are the one that claims to know the answer ,but cannot provide any evidence.

Are we swopping insults now ? Oh Dear. I forgive you .

[abbyguy]

@ilikezappa Where did the laws of "science" that govern the world and cosmos come from? The Big Bang? Where did the mass for the Big Bang come from? Answer me that.

Pompous fool.

[ilikezappa]

@abbyguy Ok dude. PS I can`t help noticing that you sent me that with your computer ,not by asking God to tell me ????

I expect your end to be delayed by on average a couple of decades by shitty medical science.

[abbyguy]

@ilikezappa : You stick with your god - science - and I will stick with my GOD - Jesus.

We'll see who's right in the end.