@ufster81 There's alot more at stake here, more claims and accusations and grievances, Israel building new Jewish settlements on Palestinian land, of Israel being an apartheid state, Palestine being an attempt by the Arabs to compromise Israel. Claims of Jews having sole claim to Jerusalem and Palestinians wanting East Jerusalem to be their state's capital. But it's all pointless, we were arguing about 300 and look where we are. We've gone way off base here. We need to stop this crap right now.
you're obviously very ill informed on the issue... so it might appear to you that it's all they talk about but that is far from the reality. right of return is a core issue and it will remain to be one until some sort of settlement is reached on it. also, formation of a palestinian state will not make israel a non-racist state as long as they define themselves and back that up with legislation, as an ethnic state.
@ufster81 It is, and that's what I mean, the Palestinians can have their own country, and it's all that they seem to talk about. And alot of talk has been about recognition of Palestine. And don't call me a moron.
it's a matter of the right of return of the displaced palestinians, which can be achieved with or without a palestinian state. you're confusing the issues...
no they aren't arab states, they are states with an arab majority population which is not mandated by any law, you dimwit. israel's demographics are however mandated by law to make it a jewish ethnic state.
you can't call a state an arab state, if they have no government policy of supporting an arab ethnic majority which is why you don't see any random saudi given automatic citizenship in egypt or syria.
@ufster81 There's alot more at stake here, more claims and accusations and grievances, Israel building new Jewish settlements on Palestinian land, of Israel being an apartheid state, Palestine being an attempt by the Arabs to compromise Israel. Claims of Jews having sole claim to Jerusalem and Palestinians wanting East Jerusalem to be their state's capital. But it's all pointless, we were arguing about 300 and look where we are. We've gone way off base here. We need to stop this crap right now.
TakumProti 3 weeks ago
@TakumProti
you're obviously very ill informed on the issue... so it might appear to you that it's all they talk about but that is far from the reality. right of return is a core issue and it will remain to be one until some sort of settlement is reached on it. also, formation of a palestinian state will not make israel a non-racist state as long as they define themselves and back that up with legislation, as an ethnic state.
ufster81 3 weeks ago
@ufster81 It is, and that's what I mean, the Palestinians can have their own country, and it's all that they seem to talk about. And alot of talk has been about recognition of Palestine. And don't call me a moron.
TakumProti 3 weeks ago
@TakumProti
no i didn't you moron, i said this particular issue is not dependent on the issue of a palestinian state and can be handled separately.
ufster81 3 weeks ago
@ufster81 No, I'm not, and you just dismissed the idea of a Palestinian state.
TakumProti 3 weeks ago
@TakumProti
yes you are... palestinians also want the right of return to be recognized by israel.
ufster81 3 weeks ago
@ufster81 No, I'm not. The Palestinians want their own state.
TakumProti 3 weeks ago
@TakumProti
it's a matter of the right of return of the displaced palestinians, which can be achieved with or without a palestinian state. you're confusing the issues...
ufster81 3 weeks ago
@TakumProti
no they aren't arab states, they are states with an arab majority population which is not mandated by any law, you dimwit. israel's demographics are however mandated by law to make it a jewish ethnic state.
you can't call a state an arab state, if they have no government policy of supporting an arab ethnic majority which is why you don't see any random saudi given automatic citizenship in egypt or syria.
ufster81 3 weeks ago