Deceptive Methodologies, False Claims & Bad Intentions 2of2

Iceyyy's friend (investigateislam) responds with further newspaper or news website "evidence". A brief examination of one of the articles: Some observations and comments...

Please see Part 1 for the full picture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rADF5DnxbQw

PLEASE NOTE: The video that this is a response to has been removed and reposted THREE TIMES, iceyyy has currently REPOSTED it in response to this video. Again the deception is clear: changing the discussion sequence. So I will give the link for the video I have responded to here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_WKeLXamYE

ALSO:
Excellent refutation Video by IqraProductions (A Must See):

Explaining the Hadith Series 5 - (Suckling & Nose Blowing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-h00a8_OVg

Resources:

1) Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 8

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim /008.smt.html

Check Hadith Numbers: 3371-3388 which are nothing to do with suckilng.

Check Hadith Numbers: 3424-3428 which all deal with ONE incident.

Check Hadith Number: 3429 which Iceyyy didnt want you to see, as it clarifies that this one incident is an exception.

2) A Scholar responds to the Question: Is it permissible to breast-feed a child over 2 years old?

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=721&ln=eng

3) A Scholar responds to the question: I understand that a child becomes "related" to a woman when he nurses from her. Does he also become related if he receives her breastmillk in a bottle ?

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=1488&ln=eng

Iceyyy's friend has used some other sources to imply that Muhammad (pbuh) ordered adult breastfeeding so here is a link to the complete translation of the hadith, the exact chapter that he talks about.

The Muwatta of Imam Malik Book of Suckling:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muwatta/030.mmt.html

Peace, fot

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[libanlibanliban]

Brother Fot, I don't think you should debate anyone that disables comments on their videos. It just looks like a piece of propoganda now where no one is allowed to even comment on it.

[thefotfoundation]

Exactly Brother Liban, I agree with you entitrely. Salaam, fot

[nassernasa]

She got OWNED !! .. she is so stupid, and Refers to Arabic Christian websites.

she is a Desprate human being, no idea why.

Peace~*!

[asy4]

I am a scholar (of literature not religion), and I make a little time everyday to browse YouTube. IslamStudios has some wonderfully informative videos, by the way. I check it out on a regular basis.

[thebigbossnahhh]

An Athiest taking a Crash course in Islam, I have to say I'm more that Satisfied that the Hadith Buhkari (sp?) that Claims A'isha is 9 when the Prophet has sexual relations with her shows also that certain dates in the SAME Hadith change the age of A'isha's Sexual relations from 9 to 13, to 15 to 17-18 till to her mid twenties.

So the info is inconclusive until after 6 and 9 years old.

[1ofTheMuslims]

i just got this message by Marocboy25: According to a brother from the website .

answering-christianity (dot) com

the guy named investigateislam on youtube is Sam Shamoun. this guy is from the bogus website 'answering islam' To see all the rebutals against his FABRICATED videos go here

answering-christianity (dot) com

[Arab7Playa]

iceyyy i did some research on you.....and i dont think your in any position to call yourself a scholor in islam 1)u cant read arabic 2)u have no idea about hadith science, narration chains, determing authenticity, schools of thought malaki, hanify etc etc... your a bit of a joke, ive read refutations on each point you've made, so you need to go back to hadith school lol and also what if i was shi3a (which im not) shias dont follow bukhari and so on, they have their own volume so your an idiot

[exterminator006]

I agree with victorylp. She is following the teachings of Paul, not Jesus (pbuh). I know Jesus (pbuh) didnt tell his followers to use deceptive methodologies like iceyyy and her friend.

[victorylp]

And this little girl icceey...She really needs to sort out herself because she does not show repect to others and when others show the same level of respect she dishes out she blocks them and comes up with weird remarks. She needs to think for herself and stop disrespecting other people and their beliefs. So the way you try to convert people to Christianity is to degrade and defame and slander other peoples Religious figures. Would your GOD be pleased with your way of spreading your beliefs?

[victorylp]

I have seen these live talks they go on about. It is just pathetic the way this investigateislam guy with an english problem with a big attitude carries himself. It is a joke. He throws out his point and demands and tries to get muslims to throw out answers back at him and cuts them off with a red dot. Honestly this guy is a joke. I think I have never seen a person like that before someone who has this agenda of spreading lies.

[victorylp]

if your are after scholars you are searching in the wrong place. Scholars do not hang around on youtube or paltalk. Wrong place!!!

But we have a christian scholar by the name of J Smith here on youtube. LOL

[swordfishabe]

I agree.