Gay Marriage in California

If you're a California voter, or know a California voter, be aware of a proposition that's going to be on the November ballot which will re-ban Gay marriage here in California.

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[babybearpook]

ooh okay. well the judges are there to stop the majority from hurting and discriminating on the minority. Marriage between blacks and whites didn't pass the majority vote. However, in their wisdom, the judges made it happen and now most people would NEVER try to deny that kind of marriage. Secondly a lisp, really? That is an ignorant stereotype which you would know if you OPENED you eyes and looked out into the real world.

[job1201204]

You are indeed trying to bust into our churches. You fucking gays are a menace to all mankind, plus the judges ignored the majority of people who did not want gay marriage. You fucking gays.......plus, if you claim you are born gay, which is total crap, then are you born to speak with a lisp? Fucking gays need to be banned from living here.

[ChuckMeIntoHell]

Actualy, I did a little research on this issue, and it seems like the only lawsuit that was filed was by the Methodist Church. The gay couple wishing to get married on a seaside resort owned by the Methodist Church, filed a complaint, not a lawsuit, against the resort for denying them the right to have their ceremony at the resort. The state of New Jersey began an investigation, and before even reaching a conclusion, was sued by the Church.

[ChuckMeIntoHell]

This is the way that I see the situation. I feel that there is a church state seperation issue here, if a church doesn't want to perform gay marriages, it shouldn't be forced to. The problem comes in when a "religious group" tries to claim the rights of a church when denying the rights to gay couples to marry off of church property. I think that if an area is not strictly used for religious service, and a fee is charged to use the area, gay rights should not be denied.

[sral187]

They should be sued! A church would be sued if they refused to marry a couple where the woman was black and the man was white, why should a gay couple be any different?

[sral187]

Uhh yeah, it's bigotry. We are not trying to confront churches, we are just trying to have our basic civil rights recognized the way they should be. You and conservative religious people like you try to force your religious ignorance upon us by trying to pass legislation to deny us our basic civil rights. Thankfully religious Americans are starting to realize this and eventually people like you will lose and even in the deep south, gay marriage will eventually be recognized!

[PerishBrave]

i never said that. your putting words in my mouth. but i believe the last thing you said can be applied to the churches that deny the rights of others who want to get married. it isn't just that they deny the marriage, they fight to make sure others can not. THAT was the point. i see no harm in letting them get married. you can say you don't want it allowed in a church, just don't fight to make sure they don't get the same rights, or worse, are not able to marry in the first place.

[mormonanswerman]

so you have total contempt for churches, and personal freedom of religion?

Then you would have no problem with people making you think as well?

Listen, you can't go around thinking that you can legislate other people's thinking, or worse, their belief.

[PerishBrave]

umm, im glad they sued. you shouldn't be denying them the right to get married! thats the stupid thing. the only harm is harm done by the churches denying someone the right to get married. it doesn't explain how being gay does harm to others, that just explains how the churches refusal to marry the couple does harm.

[ehukai26]

Money from the government, that is what it seems to come down to. So many of these issues have to do with GETTING MONEY FROM THE GOVERNMENT.