Vulcan and Victor (Britains airborne nuclear deterent)

video showing the history of both the Vulcan and Victor followed a fictional what if? strike against Soviet Russia

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• victor
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• raf
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• bombers
• nuclear
• deterent
• russia
• soviet
• mig
• 21
• aircraft

[STRURM249]

Awsome vid, does anyone know what the music is please ?

[funtimesteve3]

Secondary protocol - from the Armagedon soundtrack

[tonester09]

It's such a shame that Government after Government has gone on cost-cutting spunkathons and got rid of our airborne nuclear deterent. At least we still have our seaborne nuclear deterent with the 4 subs :)

[Th3C0br4]

How about a nice game of chess?

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@anisocoroThe Vulcan stood a very good chance of penetrating Soviet air space. It's ECM systems could jam Soviet SAM radars, ground control radars & the radars of Soviet fighters. Sovet fighter interception was entirely dependant on the ground controllers guiding the fighters to tgt. Do you realise that at 40,000ft + a Vulcan can outmanouevre fighters like the Lightening with considerable ease due to the low wing loading of the Vulcan. Vulcan jammed modern Western radars in the Falklands war.

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@jp234ify Our mines were ridiculously inefficient & expensive, ask yourself WHY it was cheaper to import Polish coal into the UK. Govs do NOT create jobs-not unless you live in a communist system. What they try & do is to create the economic conditions that promote growth & expansion-which leads to increased employment. The Poll Tax was fair in principle- EVERYBODY should pay something into the system.Atlee created the Welfare State-the 'State will provide,' culture which has been disasterous.

[TSR1989FF]

@52111centrumcz Yes i noticed that too, and as i said those V-Bombers that were caught in the MIG-21's sights would have very little chance at all (unless they had fighter escort that is).

Agreed on the B-52: the Air Launched Missile Capability saved it for sure, the Vulcans' & Vic's were also altered to launch the Blue Steel Missile, & were planned to use Skybolts' later on

(i believe the V-Force were also intended to use the "AVRO Z-59" missile, which had a Direct Cycle Atomic Ramjet).

[52111centrumcz]

@TSR1989FF

Yes I agree with the premises you pointed out...however the vid shows vics banking slightly to the right and avoiding "point blank" shots in aerial terms. The B-52s stood no chance with gravity bombs, but once they got cruise missiles with 500km range the game changed and the soviets started to take them very seriously.

[TSR1989FF]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH ...& sent our experts home with nothing but broken Promises.

Agreed (100.000%).

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

@TSR1989FF The X-1, that would be the inferior US copy of the Miles M52, that had to use rockets, as opposed to jet engines- which we had already built for the Miles M52. That would be the X-1 that used British aviation research that was literally stolen be by deception by the Yanks. They offered a joint project with the British in return for our highly secretive research in compressibility problems & the fully moving elevator. We handed it over, surprise surprise, the Yanks pulled the plug.

[TSR1989FF]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH ... Still, at least the Jap's have NEVER attained as high a percentage of the Global Shipbuilding Market as we Brit's did in our Prime (80% in 1906!! ; )

I for one will Never Forgive Clement Attlee & the Labourites for Cancelling the "Miles M-52" when she was only months away from completion (with her we would have got the World's First Supersonic Aircraft Record BEFORE the Yankee's with their air launched Bell X-1 Rocket Powered Plane* [aka: "Bomb with Wings & Cockpit"] ; )

[TSR1989FF]

@LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH Very True, the Tories 1990's campaign of "New Labour, Same Danger" after all has turned out EXACTLY as they predicted i'm sure we can all agree ; )

As for our once Great British Manufacturing Industries: Their Decline was indeed largely due to Government Ineptitude & Trade-Union Inflexibility in the Inter War & Post WWII Years (our Shipbuilding Industries for example never truly recovered from the Liberals' 1922 Cutbacks, & subciquent foul up's by all party's concerned).

[TSR1989FF]

@52111centrumcz Overall though our V-Bombers stood a much higher chance of survival than the Yank's Slow & Lumbering "B-52" (nicknamed the "Big Ugly Fat F%&$"), or their B-58's & planned B-70's

(which could fly at low level but not very well as they were primarily designed for high Altitude).

Although of course the whole point of "MAD" was that it would deter either side from ACTUALLY USING their Atomic Arsenals at all!, as it would only result in their own Destruction as well as their enemies.

[TSR1989FF]

@52111centrumcz As for "MIG-21 Fishbed" vs the V-Force:

We all know that no RAF or USAF Bomber would have stood any real chance against the MIG's or Sukhoi's IF they had actually got within Firing Range (that's obvious), however for every one or two bombers they caught several others would get through (especially when the V-Force switched to low Level Interdiction & the MIG's would have had to find them by eye [as niether Western nor Soviet Radar worked at low altitude]), that's "MAD" for you.