Dealing With Carnal Believers

You don't deal with them by taking their assurance away!
That's the most childish thing I have ever heard.
So... why are so many older Christians doing this????

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[murphyclm]

Excellent. You know, it just never ceases to amaze me how dishonest people are with themselves, saved or unsaved. Over the years, I've run into good "Christians" who want to point the finger at somebody's else's sins. Those are the ones who crack me up - who do they think they're kidding? Plenty of nice unsaved folks "do" good things but are lost anyway.

[Kloudes]

@murphyclm

Amen!

Yeah, it still amazes me how some people can be.

I know alot of good people who are lost. Anybody can do good.

That doesn't mean they are saved. I'm glad salvation isn't based on what we do :)

[unemployed562789000]

Kloudes, I have enjoyed your videos and responses. I posted my testamony on my page, feel free to check it out. I think we should handle carnel christians the same way Paul did in I Cor. 3. A christian can lose his testamony and rewards but never salvation. You cannot be unborn out of the family of God. Everlasting life starts here when you get saved. The mark of carnality is not drinking and smoking, it is enving, stife and division.

[Kloudes]

@unemployed562789000

Amen, brother. You are absolutely right. I enjoyed your testimony and added it as a response on the testimony :)

[jsawrie]

So what's different between those whose faith is shown-like yours and mine-and those who say they believe in God but live like He did nothing for them

[Kloudes]

@jsawrie

This has been a fun (yeah...) chat, but as expressed on a recent video, I do not debate. I do not have all the answers, and frankly, I don't think you are ready for these videos. You still have some things you've got to sort out before watching these apparently. You still don't understand what makes a person fit for heaven and why a Christian serves God. You are just like all the other Lordship people. Twisting Scripture to fit your false doctrine. "If you LOVE Me", not if you believe.

[Kloudes]

@jsawrie

Who are we to judge another Man's servant?

I do not rely on a person's works to prove to me they are saved. I rely on what hey say they believe. Believing in God is not hat I look for. I look for belief on the finished work of Christ alone for our justification.

[jsawrie]

everyone does sin, but not everyone is a slave to sin. The saved are slaves of Christ, and a slave does what? What the master commands. Therefore logical conclusion is the saved will do what the Master commands. This is why Jesus said "If you love me, you will obey my commandments"

[jsawrie]

So what would you say about a person who says they believe in God, tells you oh yeah I believe in God. but they live the exact same way as a non-Christian? Was their profession of faith legit?

[Kloudes]

@jsawrie

Oh, no I answered it.

You see, EVERYONE lives a life of sin.

So, if someone thinks he don't, well, he's wrong.

So, your question is mute, because everyone who is saved lives sinful lives.

We like to cherry-pick sins, but just one sin will send someone to Hell.

It's a sin to read sinful literature and it's sin to not read your Bible.

It's sin to curse your brother, and it's sin to not share the Gospel with your neighbor. It's a sin to hurt people and a sin to keep the truth from them.