Catholic News - 15 May 2011.

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- One Alongside the Other
- Catholics Persecuted by Gay Activism
- Brazil Conditions Youth for Homosexuality
- Filipino Bishops End Palace Negotiations
- Young Girls Corralled into Contraception
- Gingrich Zings Obama

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[havock89]

@birdznkatz Well they kinda do already. Your emotive comments show exactly what your perverted views are. If I were arguing for a catholic state, there would be far more things that I would want. We simply want to be able to follow our faith without interference from other sections of society that want to force their weak morality on us. Call it an exception if you like.

[birdznkatz]

@havock89 So if the majority of people in a town or a state decide that public schools should teach Protestant beliefs you would agree with that? If the people in this country were to vote to charge taxes to Catholic institutions you would agree to that? So laws enacted by the representatives of the people requiring institutions that have contracts with the city or state to abide by civil laws are bad because you want a religious exception? We live in a pluralistic, not a catholic society.

[havock89]

@birdznkatz Your right. I dont know you, and you dont know me. Now you have established the obvious. whats the point you were trying to make?

The rules that have been set up are not appropriate for catholic agencies. Why should the minority rule over the majority? The state exists to serve society not special intrerest groups in socatiety. Catholic agencies exist to serve catholics, not what you would have them serve. The state is requiring that we ignore our conscience on morality. Its wrong

[havock89]

@SpeedyBruin Now you have accepted that gay people abuse children. I exptect you to no longer defend them in the public arena. I dont have blind hatred of gay people. I have knowledge of gay people who they are and what they do. I have toletated your "blind" accusations for long enough.

Have a nice life.

[birdznkatz]

@havock89 You don't even know me. You don't have a clue about those of us who are LGBT or our relationships despite claiming to have 3 gay friends. Any agency that takes tax money to provide a service has to follow the rules. If the rules say don't discriminate, you can't discriminate or you lose your contract. If you don't want to follow the rules, you can give up the tax money and the contract. And as far as my desires being "disordered," that is your religious belief, not mine.

[SpeedyBruin]

@havock89 I am sorry that this experience has left you with a blind hatred for gay people.

[havock89]

@birdznkatz you dont have a "People" YOU are not defined by who you are attracted to. you have a disordered desire which you choose to let rule your life. there is nothing noble or honorable about that, anymore than there is in incest.

I for one DO want my taxes going to adoption agencies like those of the catholic church. and I for one DONT want MY taxes going towards people who are incapable of making good judgements on how to live their life. The minority should not rule over the majority.

[havock89]

@SpeedyBruin At no point were you the arbiter of truth. My experiences are valid evidence for me, and I have had plenty of them. I am GLAD to hear you are sorry for children who have been abused by gay people. Now what are you going to do about it?

[havock89]

@danndavbmann You have no teaching authority. You are not in a position to tell me anything about God. You cannot be married to another man. That is not what marriage is. You have usurped that which by your own choices you have no right to. You are a thief and a liar, and i do not recognise this petty, double standards god you speak of. That is not the god of the apostles that is not the god of the creed. That is not the god of catholicism. You have turned away from The Lord in the Eucharist.

[birdznkatz]

@havock89 Of course you are allowed that freedom. Catholic schools are shut down because parents are not sending their children there or moving to other areas. Bishops are making decisions to close adoption agencies that are receiving public funding rather than abide by nondiscrimination laws. They want to refuse to place children with gay couples rather than keep them open. I for one do not want my taxes going to pay for discrimination against my people. If you get tax money, you abide by law.