Stefan Molyneux debating Michael Badnarik, Opening Rebuttal

than how are these people goig to make it in the business world?
They should vote and majority rules on a smaller state and all is just fine, the grievence stef has and you is that the state became to dominant in every day life.
That should be fixed, throwing it out the window and going back 3000 years isn't an option.

seems you are oblivious about the people, even if i wont steal it someone else would.
Hey why should i start working? i'll just get a crew together and sansack the neighbourhoods houses and who's gonna stop me..

Historical evidence for it, without law enforcement from the state thats how it goes.
Good example is the roman caligium, and gangs. Before emperor justitianus.
that it will work is no evidence for however,

OK you've won the argument. The bad evil people will steal so I have to give money to the people in the blue costumes, or else the people in the blue costumes will lock me up. I completely understand, thanks for clearing it up.

I can't help but be sarcastic when all you do is throw scare tactics at me. I'm not going to spend the time explaining the multiple deterrents of theft only to have you come back with more scare tactic arguments.

Human POsychy is indeed pretty scary.
I am not deploying scare tactcs i just gave you a perfectly relevant example. Ancient rome. Before there was justice you have a good situation there.
Also intellectual property will be at risk.
Who will protect you from plagiarism? intelectual theft? patents theft? Courts.. ow noo they do not exist without a state or constitution. Stef's a smart man and good speaker just his box of aranchist goodies have some screws loose, a little rattling breaks it

The only thing that scares me about human psychology is how easily some people(like me) can go into debate mode.

For plagiarism, IP, etc. let's use stefs DRO model. Why not just have a EULA stating that by using this product you agree to the terms set within said EULA. If you break them then you agree to arbitration through a DRO.

In 3 minutes I came up with that as a solution. Is it perfect? Not by a long shot-- however imagine what a bright person with some more time could come up with.

debate mode? your solution?
You parroted someone else their solution and expect credit for it?
DRO is full of wholes, apart from it beeing another organisation that is easily corruptable because who will watch the DRO not becomming utterly corrupted? it cant.
Us and me have a totally different democracy sure we have a coalition form and you have the 2 party structure. which sucks.. but DRO is not an option.. watch my next post

it's another organisation with the authority to use force, other than that it's a company with no controle that keeps track of other people and documents them.
It almost looks like the same statism within coorperatism that stefan is so against.
Giving companies government like service to trade with is damn corruptable. instead a coalition democracy is punished by the voter.. can you vote the DRO out? it it starts using too much violence? contracts sure.. but DRO no way

But the DRO would have absolutely no power over you unless you use the companies product! You have a choice to use a product. The keyword here is choice, voluntary choice.

And of course this is going on something that I just thought up off the top of my head, of course there are going to be many problems.

you give a company instead of an elected government organ the authority over someone else. no person would be willing to even go into such a contract. ow.. hhe who decides weatherthe contract is violated? the employer? employee or the DRO itself? Who will prosecute and who will defend ? fair trail? or easily won burocractic corruptiopn with a eye for profit (since it's a company)
It's flawed on almost every point

Elected or not makes no difference, all government is force. Like it or not you are in a binding contract every day of your life. One you did not sign, one you did not see, one you were not able to even comprehend when you were entered into it.

You are FORCED to be ruled the government. You are free to not use a product if you feel that you do not want entered into such a contract.