The Foggy Dew - Anne Byrne & Jesse Owens
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Why does every Irish folk song video have you turn into a political argument?
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@3tangle3 - No - labels and language are a common cultural factor. They do not merely depend upon the person using them. One may call an apple a carrot but does that make it a carrot? No. You probably don't call Hitler's Germany or Stalin's Russia or Pol Pot's Cambodia republics, either. But that is what they were. What you perhaps mean is that they are not the kind of republic you would like. But perhaps your kind of republic simply does not exist? If so, where is it?
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@Jacobitejim I beg to differ about it being a republic............labels are only as good as the people who use them and I personally dont count that as a republic
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@3tangle3 - A republic is a republic, whether democratic or not, and so was Cromwell's. Do you think the US presidential (or any presidential) election is "independent". Really? Well, it's a point of view, I guess! Personally, I think that even the Stewart monarchs were far more answerable to the people than any US President. God certainly say a lot about kings - Judah, the Lion's whelp and all that - but government can take many forms e.g. the Florentine and Venetian republics.
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@Jacobitejim i wasnt saying the US is perfect....but why is a monarchy supposedly ordained by God better than an independently elected president??...cromwell was not a republic as there was no universal suffrage fair play.............new zealand was first to grant universal suffrage
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@FlovishRock - Stalinist Russia? Nazi Germany? Pol Pot's government? No, the fact is that you are simply an anti-English racist and a disgrace to yourself and your countrymen. There have been millions and millions of good English people, like any country. The Maltese are Catholic and warmly friendly to England, wanting once to be part of England. You are also ignorant of both truth and history. There are few modern groups as treacherous, murderous and vile as Sinn Fein/IRA and the UDA/UDL.
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@3tangle3 - He certainly WAS a republican. The Levellers were early communists. You forget - Cromwell orchestrated the murder of King Charles I. On his tomb is inscribed "No king but Christ". The 1798 rebels, the IRB, the IRA, the Fenians and even the Parnellites took inspiration from Cromwell's republicanism. Stalin was a republican but he, too, acted as a one-man tyrant. Modern republicanism derives from Calvinism. The USA certainly banned alcohol. Never heard of "Prohibition"?
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@3tangle3 - You're right: it was not Catholic/Protestant. It was revolutionary murderers versus the law-abiding citizenry. But the newspapers, both Irish and British, continually muddle the story and both Adams and McGuinness make propaganda out of it, pretending to speak for Irish Catholics when they speak only for Nazis and Stalinists.
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@3tangle3 - any burning done by government forces was done by native Irishmen since over 80% of the Yeomanry were native Irish Catholics! The rebels were mostly, like Tone, English Protestants turned revolutionaries.
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@Jacobitejim no sorry man he wasnt a republican and that wil offend many english republicans....he was a tyrannical dictator....THE REAL republicans were called the levellers and they were locked up and kept silent by crmwell and his new elite.........I am sorry oliver cromwell was only a replican as a tool to become an emperor in all but name.
Him banning football or christmas is not a result of having a "republic" (which its wasnt)....USA hasnt banned christmas
<< Proud Republican , Proud Catholic, Proud of the Freedom Fighters of Ireland!War is hell and there would be no war if the loving British army/government had simply stayed home and out of Ireland.
catholicrik 2 years ago 8
@TrueNovice There was, and still is no nation more treacherous than England. Ask the Scots, the Welsh, the Indians, the Malaysians and the Russian POW (Victims of Yalta). Ireland has had some experience with them as well (Bloody Sunday to name one incident). The English write the history but eventually the truth comes out. Unfortunately the average Brit is not interested in the truth.
FlovishRock 1 year ago 2