Rifle Marksman Training- M1 Garand (1943)

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[NanaPudden]

This is good stuff.

Thanks for the post. :D

[GhostofRazors]

"Sitting Position" looks uncomfortable.

[mocatz187]

@LoneWolf051 I think Sturmman is referring to the USMC target range of 500, not the M1's capability which is clearly much greater than that.

[Rossco139]

@GhostofRazors I don't know, it looks pretty effective to me!

[LoneWolf051]

@Sturmmann Yeah, the Machine gun is the center of the squad, and its the job of the infantry to protect it.

But I use simple techniques to make my marksmanship improve at long range, like utilze the sling, and extend he elbow for reduced recoil and increased stability, some of the positions in this video are very awkward to use, and is unstable and unfomfortable.

[Sturmmann]

@LoneWolf051

offcourse, Hathcock and many other competitors set records with it and used it at 600 during competition. In many places the rifle is put down at 440yds of max eff on a pt tgt....

gives you an idea of how detached the us army has gotten with the max capability of the rifle and more reliance on crew served heavy weapons.

the army has pretty much adopted ww2 germany's doctrine on how the infantry squad is run, unlike the USMC which still emphasizes accurate rifle fire

[LoneWolf051]

@Sturmmann Well actually the M1 can reach out to around 700 yards, I just did it the other day with mine, a target board at 700 yards, it took 3 ranging shots, and I got a 8 inch grouping.

Though the average combat distance in WWII was less than 200 yards, so the M1 was way more than capable of pinpoint accuracy, along with general issue, mass production, semi-automatic, en-bloc clip system, less recoil and peep sights, made it the dominate rifle of WWII.

[Sturmmann]

@LoneWolf051

nothing ever disappeared.

The USMC is still training its members by the pre WW1 standard. They still shoot in match settings on 12 in targets from the 200, 300 yd line and human silhouettes from the 500yd line. The M1 Garand generation didnt shoot beyond 500yds either.

its the overall army that shit canned marksmanship after being overwhelmed by draftees during WW2.

[LoneWolf051]

@Sturmmann God help us, its like the whole fundamentals of individal marksmanship dissapeared with the immergance of "accuracy by volume" and the advent of the 5.56 and M-16. Its really sad, the best the average Serviceman is really only able to egage targets up to 600 yards, unless armed with a bolt action high caliber weapon or M-14/21

[Sturmmann]

@LoneWolf051

theres your problem

you didnt teach Marine grunts

Law enforcement dont know shit about rifle marksmanship

[LoneWolf051]

@MarineM240Gunner And I've been shooting professionally for 19 years and have instructed law enforcement officers and SWAT agents. Yes, I know what I'm talking about.