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Life is suffering, but suffering is a side effect of growth. Toward what? Maybe there is no need for their to be an ultimate goal beyond nature perpetually overcoming itself.

Pushing the button is committing suicide. But can we die before we die? Could suffering be nothing but an illusion caused by attachment? Is there a way to become unattached?

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  • question. or whats your opinion rather. when i was younger i had to have surgery because i ruptured my spleen. because of sever internal bleeding there was a good chance i may have not lived through it. anyway, they put me under anestetic and i awoke 12 hours later. while i was out, there were no thoughts, no dreams, no nothing. at least that i was aware of. but if i never woke up, same thing, i wouldnt have been aware. so wouldnt that be what death is like. nothingness?? what do you think

  • I suppose it is something like going to sleep, yeah. Doesn't mean you or something like you won't wake up again one day.

  • Excellent video! I agree with most of what you said. One problem: when you say, "every organism must feed on other organisms..." That's true for carnivores, not for all organisms. In Buddhism, only Tibetan Buddhists eat meat. The harsh environment takes choice away. If we have choices, the point is to use them. And one sane choice is to give up attachments if possible. Great video....thanks.

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  • Thanks a lot!

    Once I was sitting at my office, somewhere deep in thoughts and I had a pen in my hand and a piece of paper on a table. Sometimes when I think I draw some figures.This time for some reason I wrote: "It would be easier if I wouldn't be born". I read what I wrote and thought "oh yes, it would be easier. No problems". Than I thought "but for whom it would be easier, if I wouldn't be born? For me?". There was a pause and at this time I realize that there is no "me". It doesn't exists.

  • Sorry, one other thing is that humans seem to have forgotten that THEY SIGNED UP FOR THIS. In spirit form THEY WANTED this experience of the human form, human emotions, human torment and joy, they signed up for this. I personally believe that we are all here on Earth right now because we desired to be here AND because Creator/Source/God needs us here to be a part of these next crazy insane few year. It's getting out of control fast in order to usher in THE NEW on Earth. Sorry for the 2nd post.

  • Wow, you hit the mark right ON with this video. I've noticed that humans seem to think that...if they could just end this current life body they are in, their suffering would stop, when in fact...how do they know that? What's really telling them it would stop? If we exist in parrell worlds/timelines, or go on forever (who knows) then wouldn't they just resume on another time line where they left off at? Your thoughts in this video had my head shaking YES the whole way through. Thank you again.

  • 'life is suffering' and the idea of the samsaric sea is a response to our way of life as a culture that is inherently the most difficult and laborious way ever contrived. no indigenous culture ever found or still existing on earth thought/think life was/is suffering. there was no concept of life being a painful event to be endured and somehow transcended... only people in our culture are feeling like crap about existing and what to escape all of this. nirvana means annihilation (dt suzuki).

  • hehe, you remenber me myself when i speak to my friend of different kind of thinging, universal consciousness etc...

  • You make good points. I haven't listened to this video in a long time and I have no idea what I said in it. But certainly Buddhism is not the only path to a fulfilled life/death.

    I don't think Buddhism is so much about killing the ego. It is more about learning to understand how the ego works. At the end of the day, trying to kill something which was never a self-abiding thing to begin with is quite silly.

  • which of itself can cause MORE suffering because now you have adopted a belief system that tells you to disconnect and kill the ego, have no goals, just be... but is the ego really evil? What if we advance to the point where better balance is achieved and we remember past incarnations more or extend to newer incarnations (which we dream up) where suffering greatly decreases. I know I have casused a lot of my own suffering being a heavy obseber and thinker such as yourself

  • I have run through this gamut of thoughts as well but we have to remember that there are PLENTY of people who lived very full and happy lives who were not Buddhists. Did they have suffering, sure? But at the end of their life would they say "life IS suffering"? No. Many have said life was a wonderful adventure and that were at peace with their death coming (based on whatever belief they had, many have said this) so I think the Buddha mindset can be an 'attachment' to trying to beat suffering,

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