Answering Climate Change Skeptics, Naomi Oreskes

A presentation based off of her recent book, Merchants of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientists Obscure the Truth about Climate Change. Naomi Oreskes, author and professor of history and science studies, University of California, San Diego.

From the University of Rhode Island's Spring 2010 Vetlesen Lecture Series, People and Planet Global Environmental Change. March 2, 2010.

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Education

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• naomi oreskes
• merchants of doubt
• climate change
• vetlesen

[TheRealArchAngel]

"You are definitely not a former tree hugging Hipster"

Do you even know what the difference is between someone that is Hip ("Hipster") and a Hip wannabe? (Hippie)

hint: Honestly used to think humans were a plague on earth before noticed thier link to nature,dont trust govermen or want them in my life

"Hippies" live on welfare despite comming from well to do or rich families,mooch of government,believe in AGW and only government can solve it(while bitchin about "the man")

[TheRealArchAngel]

"over-the-top arrogant"

An Exactly how is me pointing out making laws and taxes wont stop natural disasters and raising the cost of it wont switch demans to not ready for wide spread commercial use alternative power that caosts 20x more then oil cause it's price is tied into oil ..ever cause first thing that will happen is a 2 million dollar windmill will rise to 7 millin dollors by forcing the price of oil up "arrogant"?

You know what is truely naive?

Governments own oil

[BlackBeltMonkeySong]

@TheRealArchAngel You are definitely not a former tree hugging Hipster. Someone who believed one thing and then learned that they were wrong could never be so over-the-top arrogant.

[TheRealArchAngel]

"Please keep talking"

Take responsibility for your own energy usageReduce,reuse,recycle,unpl­ug,unwire

Live in the middle of a forest with no power living off the land with no tech to help you (As in make your own stone knife if you can),makeyour own shelter if you can) for a month to see if you can handle the AGWers true "utopia"

As a former "World be better without humans" tree hugging Hipster I've done 6 months as a techless hermit (experence is overrated)

[TheRealArchAngel]

"get back to playing WoW with a clear conscience, because cornucopia will provide endlessly. Did I summerise your argument correctly?"

Nope

Summary is AGWers are wasting time with the politicansin bel with oil companies in trying to solve the "problem" with taxes and laws instead of living by example by getting themselve off the grid,off the internet,and off all the oil and coal tech they haate so much and returning to the jungle and swinging in the trees

[TheRealArchAngel]

"Therefore, we have solved the pollution crisis that scientists"

No, the political Activist against Coal and oil aren't Scientists and they keep on saying the problem of "AGW" isn't solved

"C02 is not an emission."

No,modern cars and coal plants emmit less CO2 then goes in with the air intake at best and the amount of air intake plus trace co2 from additives like ethonol from fermentation process at worse (combustion cant "fuse" the extra oxygen to a C or CO molocule)

[TheRealArchAngel]

"All the engineers in the world disagree"

Mechancal engineers?

Theys\d understand that exothermic expanson iis the basis of conversion of potental energy in fuel+s[ark to realized heat,fire and kenetic energy

"Ever heard of energy equations? "

Yes

"They are math!!!!"

Math is mostly for mathamaticians and Academic Physists that usually never spend a day in the field but instead a University lab or classroom

"Peak oil" was the ultimate FAIL in math of 70s,

[BlackBeltMonkeySong]

@TheRealArchAngel "what we understand of how heat works has nothng to do with drilling for oil"

All the engineers in the world disagree. Ever heard of energy equations? They are math!!!!

[BlackBeltMonkeySong]

@TheRealArchAngel Of course there are four laws. That's why we call them the three laws of thermodynamics. It is zero indexed. Get it?

[BlackBeltMonkeySong]

@TheRealArchAngel You do realise that you sound like a complete ass. Please keep talking.