wimshurst driven by itself ? 2

the white balls are charged positive and negative by the wimshurst in the centre
by means of the copper tubing

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Science & Technology

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• static
• electricity
• wimshurst

[PhuqueU]

Wait, you're using glass? I think that may be part of the reason you have no power. I know Ben Franklin used metal thimbles on his electrostatic motor. Anyway try driving it with electro-magnets, you may get a very interesting surprise.

[bekobejo]

I used chistmas balls to energise the silver inside layer of these balls.

I did some test with them and they repell

rather well if they get the same static charge. (two suspending balls on fishing wire)

maybe the force will be stronger if there was a metallic layer at the outside of the balls as well.

maybe I will try this in the future.

electro-magnets won't work because you don't get enough output current to activate the magnets

[PhuqueU]

hey what a cool idea, if even only for demo purposes, or art in motion, to have an electrostatic motor power the wimshurst which powers it. Possibly leading to at least proof of over unity or perpetual, er? but then they would come and call you a terrorist, nevermind. Hey, how do you measure the output voltage on a wimshurst?

[bekobejo]

the charge you need to get a spark of 1 mm is approx. 3000 V.(depends on humidity /air pressure)

so if you measure the distance between the two electrodes you know the voltage between the electrodes.

[challenger159]

I'm not sure what you want to do here, get some torque by bielefeld-brown effect?

Anyway, how about to discharge into a coil magnet and run an adams monopolar motor this way? As far as I see there is no lorentz force that brakes the wimshurst wheel, do I get this right? So, if you can manage friction etc. then there should be a plus of energy, hopefully enough to operate itself.

[bekobejo]

I wanted to give the silvercolored balls

a positive and negative charge by means of the whimshurst in the centre.

if a goldcolored ball from the rotor passes the silvercolored ball it will get the same charge (positive or negative) ,and same charged balls will repel each other, just the same principle

as the pop bottle motors you see everywhere on static electricity sites.

I think the loss of charge in the balls and copper tubing is to great to get enough repelling force!

[PhuqueU]

Because pre-made electromagnets use fat amp hog wire, designed for 12 and 120 volt, but if you use the angel hair thin 34 awg wire, designed for high voltage, 700 volts, and acheive that voltage through various diodes and microwave oven transformers, you will see, and you will only need mili-amps of 700v to do it.

[yodah06]

in any case it's a good job !

overunity can change the world...