Liv Ullman - Erland Josephson - Parce que c'était eux

Rencontre entre Liv Ullman et Erland Josephson filmée par Alexandre Barry

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[John K. Lindgren]

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[Eric Wik]

I think of Erland Josephson so often. It was most difficult for me when I read of his passing. I think I thought he would live forever, and I recall that I felt that way when Bergman died. It is, in a way, unthinkable--because Josephson's face, his voice, his majesty, if you will, are an essential part of my life.

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4. LU: We’re not just Erland and Liv, we’re sort of Erland Josephson and Liv Ullmann and… we have been filmed and interviewed, and, as you say, perhaps what is most important between us is unspoken.

EJ: Though I don’t quite like the idea that they call an ambulance as soon as I open my mouth.

They laugh. LU: Is there nothing that you have never…?

EJ: That I’ve never done?

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3. EJ: But I think we have had a wonderful… relationship with each other. And still have, and always will… so I’ll come to the funeral. LU: That’s good. And I think it’s funny that we should talk about funerals and illness, and we can hear – at least I can hear – an ambulance passing in the street. And after all, that is our life. Everything that we are has also been photographed and micro… What do you call it? Recorded with microphones… and everything.

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2. EJ: Moving on to the question of whether there are things that are unspoken… And I certainly hope there are. Because no one can put a whole life into words in a few moments. And you can’t live a whole life with what is entirely spoken. The unspoken is a source as well. And maybe what we have talked about is that we mustn’t be afraid of the unspoken. To moralize a bit. But it’s not possible to cover a whole life.

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Translation. 1. LU: If I die before you, will you come to my funeral if I’m in a different country? EJ: I suppose so. I don’t much feel like thinking about that, I have to say, but… Of course I’d be there. But I really think that I will go first, as they so beautifully call it. LU: We can’t know that. EJ: Sorry? LU: We can’t know that. EJ: No. We can’t know that. LU: But it would be nice, if I went first, that… EJ: I’ll be there. I promise. (She smiles.)