My new Electric Bike Kit (250 watt geared electric hub motor)
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@m9078jk3 Well the 28 mph electric scooter would defeat the purpose of combining exercise and if one had problems with it and it couldn't be pedaled unlike your faster than 20 mph ( 30 mph) electric bike (Also it's much heavier too)t looks inexpensive though but one could just get a gas powered scooter instead.However if one could use that tax rebate it might be worthwhile as an additional supplemental electric vehicle.
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@scottwa By the way wouldn't it be cheaper/better to just get a street legal electric scooter like say at MC Electric Vehicles in Seattle.Their G1 model electric scooter is $2,599 and has a 3,000 watt brushless hub motor (40 AH batteries).It says no WA state sales tax and $7,500 Federal Tax Credit on select new electric vehicles (don't know if this applies to the electric scooters though).By the way I saw that they also sell electric bike conversion kits too.
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@scottwa Yeah probably here one wouldn't have problems (with a faster than 20 mph electric bike) .I do see all sorts of fools on bikes blowing through lights,stop signs,no helmets etc.Thanks again.
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@m9078jk3 You would need DOT approved tires, approved lighting etc... so yes, it's technically illegal, but if you aren't riding like an idiot (using proper lane position, signalling, not running lights etc...) then no one notices or cares. The biggest difference I've noticed is the massive reduction in overtakes when riding with traffic. On roads where I might experience dozens of overtakes in a mile, with the assist helping me keep up with traffic reduces it to just a couple.
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@m9078jk3 The numbers given are not actually accurate (but commonly used), but keep in mind it is also the speed at which a vehicle of over a ton is impacting a basically stationary pedestrian. Big difference between that and a vehicle moving the same direction at the same speed.... think of Nascar and bump to pass. If you do crash at the higher speeds, you will slide further, longer and into things harder... but the odds of being rear ended go way down.
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@scottwa Continued again.
Scott feel free to add more to this conversation if you wish.You have been graciously helpful and I appreciate the input from someone much more technically inclined.My bike by the way is not really ideal for city commuting (wrong type) however it was free.If I were to make a better e bike I would choose a very lightweight quality commuter style bike to modify and I might do so later on.
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@scottwa Continued -Going above the maximum allowed speed/wattage might not be noticed however it's classified as a motor vehicle in this case.One needs a drivers license (O.K. got that),vehicle registration (plates,tabs,VIN) none and in some states vehicle insurance.Here in WA state a under 30 mph gas powered scooter or moped doesn't need insurance (not mandatory).I suppose one could go to the trouble of getting a VIN if all the safety equipment was on the vehicle (turn indicators,brake lights)
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@scottwa Well I recently saw a study that said in a vehicle vs bicycle impact (or bicycle vs stationary) at 20 mph the rider had a 5% probability of dying but at 30mph the probability increased to 20% (for death).
At 40 mph it was drastically higher I can't remember something like a 80% chance of death.
I have seen a video on youtube of a electric bike owner being cited by several police officers for having a electric bike above the maximum wattage/speed.He was given 3 pricey tickets.
O.K. I tested this kit with a cheap bike computer.With this SLA battery version kit and riding inefficiently (powered both on level as well as up hills) at 36 degree F temps outside the motor ran pretty well until about 5 miles total and was losing power until about 5 and a half miles.So that's a indication of range with the 24 volt 8 amp SLA battery with this kit.It might do a little less if I was riding in an area with steeper hills though.Not bad at all.
m9078jk3 3 months ago
O.K. another small criticism (not big) about this kit from Clean Republic .
The Red button on the handlebar comes off easy if bumped.I put some electrical tape over it around the Velcro throttle switch strap so it doesn't come off easy.This works well as a quick fix.Also I recommend using electrical tape around the wire going to the throttle switch so the switch doesn't move on the handlebar. This is the biggest problem with this kit and it's very minor.
m9078jk3 4 months ago