The Patriot Game (part 2)

Part 2 of Arthur MacCaig's documentary on the six counties. Made in 1979.

1980 Festival Popoli (Florence)
1980 Rotterdam Film Festival
1980 Festival Cinema du Reel (Paris)

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• irish
• republicanism
• revolutionary
• socialism
• resistance
• activism
• guerrilla
• civil
• war
• ira

[1798Greenflag1916]

This documentary is histrically unsound and should not be trusted

[Dilzybhoy]

In what way? Yes I know it is undoubtedly biased. But I'd like to know in what way it is historically unsound. I know there are one or two mistakes but I'd like your input as to what bits are unsound.

I would value your contribution.

[godbrother10]

at 04:37 they've spelt James Connolly's name wrong

[Dilzybhoy]

Well spotted. But it wasn't spelt wrong. It was just spelled differently. Like Spelled and Spelt for example.

[stuart7034]

@Dilzybhoy the irish national movement lost its soul from 1968 ,i am a protestant socialist but the ira became a religious right wing movemnt ther4 exluding people like me who h8td the ulster unionst ruling class

[Dilzybhoy]

@stuart7034 Stuart, I am really sorry you felt and feel that way. I don't believe they did. Certainly some of it's supporters were sectarian idiots with no political analysis. But the war was not with the unionist community. Even when the unionist working class were being fed fascist bullshit from Paisley and the like. The war was with the crown forces. Invariably, that meant protestant UDR men were targeted. We couldn't just sit there and hope the protestants would join NICRA. They were asked.

[Dilzybhoy]

I belive there were certain elements within the republican movement who were right ring religous bigots. But the left was by far in the majority and in control. I wished that more protestants would join the republican movement to avoid the secterian conflict but the unionist rulling class were hellbent on making it a secterian war. They [Unionst WC] were fed lies that the OIRA were planning an armed revolution. But it was Paisley's and other prominent unioist leaders UPV that was it stirring up.

[taibshe]

the pizza delivery guy and those young soldiers killed was an atrocity committed by the disident republican movement who do not speak on the part of ireland, her nationalist people or the IRA who protected the nationalist communities during years of violence, trouble and police brutality.

[phact11]

I saw this movie in 1980 in Cambridge MA about a year before the infamous hunger strike. Every Amrican of Irish descent needs to see this film and learn of the history of their people. Also, for all the pop culture notoriety of Bloody Sunday (U2, the Greengrass film) remember that the march was in protest over internment. Think about that the next time you hear expressions like rendition, wire-tapping w/o a warrant, waterboarding, Gitmo.

[LibertyorDeath777]

Please forgive my ignorance on the matter, obviously there are other things involved but all i know is the British wanted control over Ireland/N.Ireland. So how is it wrong that the i.r.a. were wrong in wanting to kick the fuckers out? Anybody would do the same thing! I'm not on one side or the other. its very sad so many people died. Help me understand.

[harpicecold1916]

@harpicecold1916 Newry*

[harpicecold1916]

@Bushido91328 Let me guess, without having to check your profile, do you come from the US? if so then that says it all. If you listened to what she was saying you would had heard "in Nerwy two in a half thousand people" not in the country, Newry today has a population of around 27,000 people today so think about what the population was back then, A LOT LESS. Dumb twat get an education.

[Bushido91328]

lmfao. "2 and a half thousand people out of work?" Cry me a river.

[northernsoul44]

@sjhannigan1 They were to wise to go after him. He did more harm alive. They learned from Britains mistakes.

[stuart7034]

@Dilzybhoy i have to think about ur rply , serious monment going on in my mind , will right back when i hve more thoughts i can express by the way watched "irish ways" ,excellent