For anyone interested, I came upon Qur'an 4:24 recently that seems disturbing. It sounds like slavery is not only allowed in Islam, but, so is having sex with your married slave woman. But, is this taken out of context or what? Please set us straight here if you really know the Qur'an.
quran-islam.0rg/97.html
TheStarvingSpawn 2 years ago
2. ...?how to write Internet address in youtube?... (this my reference, has exactly the same meaning in Indonesian), not Cairo's translation, but exaclty the same version of translation.... I'm noting that Qur'an has only one version, our ancient one, never been remaked, edited or whatsoever
TheStarvingSpawn 2 years ago
where is my number 2 and 4? gosh
TheStarvingSpawn 2 years ago
3. I'm supporting you to do more research in Qur'an, 4:24 is not about 'we muslim can have slave and fuck them as we want', becareful, Islam culture influent significantly the Arab's culture ever since Muhammad were sent there, BUT Islam culture is not Arab's culture
TheStarvingSpawn 2 years ago
Dear Ramzi,
I need to clarify things (that I know :D )
1. Arab language is kinda difficult to translate, and that explains why there are many version of translation, especially arab's language to english, somehow the translator assumed things because each Ayyah (ayyat) has Azbabun-Nuzul (history cause of the ayyah), therefore we must alert the different between tafsir and translation...and I can't explain about the Azbabun-Nuzul because I'm not the expert.
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TheStarvingSpawn 2 years ago
the slave women is usually under brackets.
sgazaidi71 2 years ago
The verse is about Muta(temperory marriage. deemed forbidden by sunnis so, they confuse the translation. It is not about slave women. a very debated topic among sunnis shia so can't explain it much. but read the topic of Muta you'll know what I mean.
sgazaidi71 2 years ago
yes indeed different, there are so many version of translation brother, the cairo version is the best i think, translation is not equal to tafsir, very different, well tafsir can have many version (sorry for bad english)
TheStarvingSpawn 2 years ago
We decent muslim, respect and obey the country laws
That woman should be divorced first, before we could marry her, even though we were allowed to marry without the divorced status
Thats my opinion...
and I like you, because you are very observant...
One thing for you guys, dont make this judgement: Islam = Arab's culture
Prophets were sent there because their awful culture, awful slavery, bad kings, freesex (i dont mean sex for free :D ), and so many sins, even sin's in most religions
TheStarvingSpawn 2 years ago
[4:24]
"Also prohibited are the women who are already married, unless they flee their disbelieving husbands who are at war with you..."
Mr. Ramzi, ... Moslem man, can marry and also have sex after marrying a married woman if the woman married with a non-moslem man, because in Islam perpective, that married woman was not legitly married, ...
and absolutely no double status for the woman, the only husband for that woman is ofcourse the moslem one (in Islam perspective)
TheStarvingSpawn 2 years ago