Fact Vs. Fiction - The Atheist Experience #431

A caller has a few questions regarding evolution, god, and Jesus. He doesn't have much response to the well thought out answers of Jeff and Russell. Jeff Dee and Russell Glasser host this clip from The Atheist Experience #431 - http://www.atheist-experience.com

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[retrosyk]

I'd gladly accept Spider-Man as my lord and savior.



[fatouche99]

@wimpylassiter2336 To add. Atheists have a much more profound love for life then theists. (1) Because we believe this is the only life you get, which makes it infinitely more valuable. And (2) Most religions are actually just death cults.

[ChipArgyle]

@j919or Willfully blind to what? In denial of what? There's no substance to this argument whatsoever, and no evidence to deny.

What do you mean "decades later is still within the guidelines for historical literature"? That's gibberish. What guidelines are you talking about? You can't write direct quotes in huge volumes decades after the words were allegedly spoken. Nobody even knows who wrote the Bible.

As for "come clean", point the finger at yourself: show us your god please.

[j919or]

@ChipArgyle Nah. Of course i knew that, and u totally demonstrated ur wilfull blindness for I said that decades later is still within the guidelines for historical literature.

My conclusions about u are an understatement. You didnt give me any reason not to believe that you are wilfully blind and every reason to believe that you are in denial and in hiding. Come clean!

If Im wrong then tell me why im wrong.

[ChipArgyle]

@j919or You don't know me yet you claim you know my intentions. That's stunningly arrogant, and definitively American Christian. Your assumptions about me are, believe it or not, completely incorrect. Judge ye not lest ye be judged.

Yes, decades after his death. You didn't know that? You should read up on some of the history of Christianity that's been studied and documented outside of the Bible.

[j919or]

@ChipArgyle Nah. No one worships God unless they have the forgiveness of sins and the presence of Gods Holy Spirit. Until then, they just pretend to worship God while they worship self and created things rather than the Creator.

Decades after his death? That falls within the criteria for historical literature and doesnt permit the classification of legend or myth.

Yall will be judged bc you dont want God in your life bc:

1. u like self will

2. and self glory

[ChipArgyle]

@j919or Sure, sure. And what of the Jews and Muslims who worship the same God but deny Jesus was the son of God? Will they be denied Heaven/ Paradise because they worship differently?

It's difficult to say what Jesus preached. Some say he didn't exist. Others note that as most writings about him were done decades after his death, there are no direct quotes available and that he's really more legend than Lord.

It makes your stance difficult to prove but fun to believe I suppose.

[j919or]

@ChipArgyle Corrupt humanity hates the idea of God. Athesits deny Gods existence while others they take a different route. They invent a God that doesnt demand that they submit their lives to Him and call it religion. Jesus was tortured and killed bc He preached that God demands ur life and He wants to live within u and restore ur wretched self that becomes increasingly evil without complete dependence upon Him.

[ChipArgyle]

If Christianity is the correct religion, why does only 1/3 of humanity follow it? That's something that every Bible-thumper should consider prior to claiming the "truth" of his religion to anyone.