This book is fantastic and it's varied characters deliver a deep understanding of their environment which lends a perspective of the south. Any story can take place in any city or town. This one takes place in N.O, a setting for the story, that simply helps create an environment in which the characters can fully develop in the way Toole imagined. Everyone is entitled to take from it what they may. So no need for hang up's about 'who' wants to focus on 'what'. Oh yeah, great book
I just finish The Condederacy. Well, a week of amusement, wild laugher and sorry for Toole's final. But also a profound sense of to have founded a classic in American literature not recognized by his peers. I am sure that JKToole will have an international fan club of readers and deserves a facebook page or a permanent forum of analysis and quotations.
@MckyMseNTarotCrds Yes you could set it in another city but it begs the question...why? The story would loose the patois of some very important characters. What would be the point of setting somewhere else? Why roll a rock uphill? Have you ever been to New Orleans or lived there? If so I think you would understand why as you say in you blanket statement "New Orleans people only focus on that aspect of it."
@bthor76 I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you're from NO. Just like I said in my comment, New Orleans people only focus on that aspect of it. And it absolutely could've been set in my city, or New York, or a dozen other places. It's a sublime story...it just saddens me that NO residents seem to see it only as some sort of travelogue for their city or something. It's so, so much more than that.
@MckyMseNTarotCrds Let me get this straight. You could do this in...say...Phoenix, Boise or Pittsburgh? Hardly! The city IS a character in the story. The "yat" accent of no less than four characters would be gone and thus would make them less interesting.
(cont.) it's so much more than just a NO postcard. You guys are proud of your city, nothing wrong w/ that. But Dunces, in my mind, could've taken place in any large American city. I think some people make too much of the setting. It's a beautiful, absurd, sad and hopeful story regardless of his description of certain blocks and parishes or whatever. He lived there, so he set it there. It's certainly not "about" New Orleans, at least not the way I think of the book.
One of my favorite books. Sometimes I think about the whole story of his depression, suicide and posthumous publication, and it makes my eyes well up. God, if only he could have held on for a while longer. I never heard of this movie, though. Where can I see it? I have to say, Orleans people always seem to focus on the Orleans aspect of the novel. I've heard a few other people talking about Toole, and how the city is such a character in the book. I don't know, I love, love the book, but...
Terrifly sad story -- kind of reinforces the old axiom "Publish or perish." I'd love to see Vincent d'Onofrio play Toole in a biopic.
lindenmanmax 5 months ago
Borges, Poe....Buckowsky & Toole. What a great book.
zaratustra007 7 months ago
This book is fantastic and it's varied characters deliver a deep understanding of their environment which lends a perspective of the south. Any story can take place in any city or town. This one takes place in N.O, a setting for the story, that simply helps create an environment in which the characters can fully develop in the way Toole imagined. Everyone is entitled to take from it what they may. So no need for hang up's about 'who' wants to focus on 'what'. Oh yeah, great book
krautdale 8 months ago
I just finish The Condederacy. Well, a week of amusement, wild laugher and sorry for Toole's final. But also a profound sense of to have founded a classic in American literature not recognized by his peers. I am sure that JKToole will have an international fan club of readers and deserves a facebook page or a permanent forum of analysis and quotations.
PzzEditora 9 months ago
@MckyMseNTarotCrds Yes you could set it in another city but it begs the question...why? The story would loose the patois of some very important characters. What would be the point of setting somewhere else? Why roll a rock uphill? Have you ever been to New Orleans or lived there? If so I think you would understand why as you say in you blanket statement "New Orleans people only focus on that aspect of it."
bthor76 9 months ago
@bthor76 I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you're from NO. Just like I said in my comment, New Orleans people only focus on that aspect of it. And it absolutely could've been set in my city, or New York, or a dozen other places. It's a sublime story...it just saddens me that NO residents seem to see it only as some sort of travelogue for their city or something. It's so, so much more than that.
MckyMseNTarotCrds 9 months ago
@MckyMseNTarotCrds Let me get this straight. You could do this in...say...Phoenix, Boise or Pittsburgh? Hardly! The city IS a character in the story. The "yat" accent of no less than four characters would be gone and thus would make them less interesting.
bthor76 9 months ago
(cont.) it's so much more than just a NO postcard. You guys are proud of your city, nothing wrong w/ that. But Dunces, in my mind, could've taken place in any large American city. I think some people make too much of the setting. It's a beautiful, absurd, sad and hopeful story regardless of his description of certain blocks and parishes or whatever. He lived there, so he set it there. It's certainly not "about" New Orleans, at least not the way I think of the book.
MckyMseNTarotCrds 10 months ago
One of my favorite books. Sometimes I think about the whole story of his depression, suicide and posthumous publication, and it makes my eyes well up. God, if only he could have held on for a while longer. I never heard of this movie, though. Where can I see it? I have to say, Orleans people always seem to focus on the Orleans aspect of the novel. I've heard a few other people talking about Toole, and how the city is such a character in the book. I don't know, I love, love the book, but...
MckyMseNTarotCrds 10 months ago