Dogfights of the Middle East (1 of 5)

Episode 10 of the History channel Series Dogfights. Israeli Air Force in various Israeli-Arab Conflicts

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[InitialDAmine]

Seriously, looking at the history, what did the Arabs have at the time? they were just moving out from being colonies to being independant countries, their armies were new and not trained enough

[EvilxMerlin]

@SorenityVids

Well until 2015-2016 the Americans kinda do. The T-50/PAK-FA is coming along very well, but still isn't expected to be in service until 2016. The Chinese J-20 is so far behind the development curve we will be lucky to see it by 2018. Not to mention the J-20 is looking to be more of an attempt at press than a true Gen 5 fighter.

[SorenityVids]

@EvilxMerlin Yeah... I only included the others because they are the only examples of the generation other than the American jets, and I did not want to give the illusion that we monopolize that field.

[garaion]

@EvilxMerlin Fact check? I meant most of the electronic system, there are dozens of components.

Let me see i served 3 years in the IDF that's the Israeli defense force if you are having trouble in understanding. Its one thing to read some online info on f-15 and it's another thing to actually see it up close and work on one. and no its not a secret its a known fact.

[EvilxMerlin]

@garaion

Um, you are including numbers of aircraft lost to anti-aircraft missiles, not A2A combat. NO American aircraft were lost in the A2A role. You need to fact check better.

ALL Israeli F-15's are STILL fitted with the American APG-70 radar. Once again, FACT CHECK.

Go ahead, check your F-15's you'll find the APG-70 radar right there in em.

My god, where the FUCK do you get your false ideas from?

[garaion]

@EvilxMerlin you are wrong

Dogfight stats:

US vs Iraq in the 90's plains lost 3:5

Israel vs Arabs (including 6 Russian pilots) 23:687 check Wikipedia

Don't give a fuck about F-22/b2 bombers don't care about "On the paper" your information is made up.

number 4, as somebody who actually served in the IDF Israeli f-15 do not use US radar systems, but an Israeli better one - on delivery the F-15 is strip down and all relevant electronics is replace by the IAF.

[EvilxMerlin]

@garaion

On point three, three years ago it was a score of 1.2 to 1 on the Israeli side. Two years ago it was 3.2 to 1 on the American side due to the F-22 and better radar upgrades in the F-15 and F-16. Last year the F-22 was up almost 10 to 1 before the Israeli's called a halt to the fighting games. Please don't distort the facts. On point 4, the main weapon the Israelis use is the F-15 and F-16, both of which use the American radar system.

[EvilxMerlin]

@goro1919

Huh? WTF are you talking about? The planes in the video above are Gen 2 and Gen 1 fighters, and all of them on the Israeli side are French! NO country is flying PRODUCTION Gen 5 fighters right now except for the United States! Good god, get your facts correct!

[EvilxMerlin]

@SorenityVids

Well technically just the F-22 and F-35, none of the other aircraft are in production.

[EvilxMerlin]

@UnderclasSum41

Why did they attack? Because they think dying for Allah is awesome! Typically they do not think rationally when it comes to war. The Arab airforces during the 6 day way were NOT well trained at all.