-DVD Version: INTRO - Individualism vs Collectivism

The True Debate of Our Time.

***NEW DVD Version***

An animated series exploring the substance behind the political terminology used in contemporary debates.

The research of Mr G Edward Griffin reveals how all viewpoints can be stripped down to 2 basic positions.

Discover how the different approaches of Collectivism and Individualism impact on all aspects of our lives, from human rights, governmental authority and the use of force.

#INTRO
#P1. The Nature and Origin of Human Rights
#P2. Group Supremacy
#P3. Coercion vs Freedom
#P4. Equality and Inequality under the Law
#P5. Proper Role ofGovernment

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[jscottupton]

In 1850 French economist/political scientist Bastiat said that socialists confuse government with society. If we object to a thing being done by government, they say that we object to it being done at all...if we object to government schools, they say that we are objecting to education...etc etc.

[Dariuszdavi]

@LibertarianChristian Aussies For Ron Paul!!!

[cleanhomer]

@xKenseixX ... extremists, then, again, the law comes back into play to punish the perpetrators & protect the victims. And what makes you think they'll always be extremists, depending on how individual immigrants are treated by their new neighbors? Perhaps most will be friends with their neighbors, and even adopt some of the new values if they content with the values. And the extremism will be less popular, even among the Muslim communities.

[cleanhomer]

@xKenseixX ...that their daughters have more liberty in their new land. Or they could campaign to change something like gender equality if they want, but that might depend on the success of the extremist Islam they're trying to implant on the surrounding locals. What makes you so sure that the surrounding locals will go along with the extremism? What, you mean one minute, they're all for gender equality, then the next minute, they're not? If they're threatened with violence by the...

[cleanhomer]

@xKenseixX If any of the extremist Muslims break laws- like committing theft, murder, rape- then they'd be punished like any other citizen... provided that the society & justice system sees them as citizens as any other. And if they're surprised they can't do things like force their daughters to marry, they should've thought of that before emigrating to country that recognizes their daughters' equal rights. They can just do two things: go back to where they came from, or accept...

[cleanhomer]

@xKenseixX They might refuse to adopt some new cultural values if too many of their new neighbors are being assholes towards them. I know I would! Why should I have to give into that kind of bullying? Who said anything about protesting the different culture? The immigrants are protesting the rotten treatment by their new society, which is why they'd defy adopting any of the new culture, the way Gandhi defied Britain.

[cleanhomer]

@xKenseixX I'm talking about socially-forced assimilation from decades & centuries past, not this little current pocket of time. And as I've said before, just ENFORCE the immigration laws! Illegal immigration & cultural expression have nothing to do with each other. "most Americans have moved away" Isn't that another occurrence of white-flight?

[xKenseixX]

@cleanhomer Just as many do not want to see a extremist Muslim ideology implanted on the local level, or even by use of law. Why? Because you have people in a certain geographical area that have been a certain way for a long time, that are not in conjunction in mindset to that ideology. Is one better than the other? Not my place to decide, because it is irrelevant to the main point I just made. These are not even remotely similar to MLK ect..

[xKenseixX]

@cleanhomer So, people have a right to disagree with that occurring. When they see hospitals close and schools have to shift resources, people can disagree with that shift. Why? Because being an individual with rights has nothing to do with the above. Again, people do not move to Germany or Sweden and refuse to assimilate into that country. They do not protest the ways and complain and use their native language instead. Your reference to Ghandi and MLK was beyond stupid and idiotic.

[xKenseixX]

@cleanhomer My family was not forced to assimilate by a whip. That type of argument belittles the discussion and is stupid. We're living in 2011, yes? So please don't assume they all were forced and intimidated, thanks.

You can see the destruction clearly in California. Little pockets of illegals from Mexico have taken over areas. The cities have deteriorated. Spanish is dominant and most Americans have moved away. Travel to any of the numerous areas in California to see this fact.

[xKenseixX]

@cleanhomer You've shifted way out of the original conversation. Someone can be against multiculturalism in the sense of others coming and pushing a complete take over and change (by what ever means to achieve it) on a local, state or federal level. Yet, still be for individualism. Individualism is not about heritage identity. It's about individual rights. One is an opinion on how they view multiculturalism and other is an ideology to proposes individuals have rights, not groups.

[cleanhomer]

@xKenseixX (Sorry, another belated argument) "out of spite" What do you mean, out of spite? If someone is defiantly practicing their free expression rights, or protesting in a peculiar way, you call that spite? Was the Boston Tea Party just being spiteful? Was Gandhi spiteful when he called for boycotts of British goods & even making one's own clothing & salt? Was Martin Luther King spiteful? Were the civil rights "sit-in" protesters spiteful?