Was Christ Crucified? - Deedat vs Bishop Wakefield - 3 of 15

And they say: "None shall enter paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful." Sura 2 Verse 111

'Was Christ (PBUH) Crucified' - Ahmed Deedat vs. Bishop General Wakefield

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[IslamLearning]

This all none sense. There is no where in the whole bible where God ordered the sacrifice of an innocent human being as a condition to forgive the sins of mankind. This is all lies made up by the liar Paul and Prophet Jesus has nothing to do with it. Jesus Said the only way to the Kingdom of God is by KEEPING THE COMMANDMENTS AND NOT BY SOME WEIRD ALLEGED HUMAN SACRIFICE THAT PAUL THE APOSTATE AND LIAR MADE UP. No where did Jesus say "I will die for the sins of mankind". NO WHERE. ALL LIES

[naliakbar]

Joe,

answer a simple question, if a person who is poor commits a sin, what is he to do for the god you ascribe to pre jesus? is that poor person to go and steal the animal of the neighbor to sacrifice it to god for repentance?

see i believe in a just god, and justice says that if a person can afford it then he does that, if not then simply the bare minimum would be repentance alone. but tell me where is the justice for the poor person to get forgiven pre jesus.

[jorsak]

@SilverRossier Any time you would like to chat, please feel free to message me.

Blessings,

Joe

[SilverRossier]

@jorsak

Ohoh, I too appreciate your maturity~ Since we both respect each others view, it is then best that we return to our lives and research about each other's religions, without intending to attack each other with bias.

I hope to continue this discussion. I hope to read the al-Maryam, in the Quran to give you evidence from Quran that Jesus is still alive. :D With that, I bid you good health~

[islamfalse]

BIBLE WARNS OF ISLAM AND THE CURSE THAT WILL BE UPON PEOPLE LIKE DEEDAT FOR PREACHING ANOTHER GOSPEL

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. - Gal 1:8

[islamfalse]

WHY MUSLIMS DONT BELIEVE JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS

"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish, foolishness..."(1 Cor 1:18)

[jorsak]

Since, if I am wrong and you are right, I will spend a bit of time paying / atoning for never having come to faith in Allah but for having sought out God as best I understood. However, If I am right and you are wrong, then eternity will be spent separated from God. That's a rather serious situation.

Blessings, and thank you for the sincere and mature response.

Joe

[jorsak]

@SilverRossier Well my friend, I certainly appreciate the maturity of that response. To often lack of knowledge never hinders the responses. :-) I would only ask you to consider the idea that if God laid out the system of sacrifice practiced for thousands of years, that his prophets foretold the role of the Messiah to be such sacrifice and that the Messiah himself so extensively spoke on the subject that perhaps it would be a subject worth becoming conversant in. (Cont.)

[SilverRossier]

@jorsak

Hmmm...... I just can't swallow the fact that.... Someone has to die for our own sins.

I have no points to argue. My lack of knowledge signals me to stop.

[jorsak]

you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.” (matthew 16:21-23)

Jesus called Peter SATAN for suggesting that he would not allow him to die on the cross. PLEASE for the sake of your eternal sole, consider the fact that Jesus' own view of the cross was 100% opposite of what Islam teaches.

Islam is in direct disagreement with the law of God, the Prophets of God, and the Messiah himself. PLEASE consider this.

Salaam,

Joe