@jeanambr I did a little more research, too. Savage sang countertenor roles in Handel's Saul and Israel in Egypt. Again, both oratorios. And both performed in English. So you are correct.
@90lysander According to The New Grove Dictionary of Opera, Savage sang as a treble in three premieres of Handel operas, but after growing up he became a bass. You are right, nevertheless, for very sporadic cases of employment of countertenors in the eighteenth century British musical theatre are reported; none in Handel opera premieres, very few in oratorios. Daniel Sullivan, for instance, created the part of Athamas in Handel’s Semele and appeared in stage works by Purcell, Boyce, Arne, etc
@jeanambr I thought William Savage, after his bass changed, sang both as a bass and as a countertenor for Handel. Or was he a bass for the operas and a countertenor for the Oratorios? Hmmm.
Sì, tu hai ragione. Era molto tardi quando ho scritto la risposta e in effetti i falsettisti erano usati solo in sostituzione dei castrati. Graize mille!
Per quanto io ne so, nel ''600/'700, i falsettisti, se furono utilizzati in Inghilterra (fuori comunque dall'ambiente teatrale), non lo furono certamente in Italia: nello Stato Pontificio i ruoli femminili erano affidati a giovani castrati. Se hai notizie diverse dalle mie, basta che tu mi faccia un nome o un ruolo in qualche opera italiana creato originariamente da un controtenore. Con simpatia.
well, they were adored in the south of Italy, in whom Pontifician State had a great influence and where it was forbidden to play music on stage for a woman. But where women could sing on stage, they was rarely on stage, and only in the leading role (tenors were not liked) of the male.
@acanthe83 oh la je suis pas d'accord ;) mais les gouts et les couleurs....
edem1089 1 month ago
@jeanambr I did a little more research, too. Savage sang countertenor roles in Handel's Saul and Israel in Egypt. Again, both oratorios. And both performed in English. So you are correct.
90lysander 5 months ago
@90lysander According to The New Grove Dictionary of Opera, Savage sang as a treble in three premieres of Handel operas, but after growing up he became a bass. You are right, nevertheless, for very sporadic cases of employment of countertenors in the eighteenth century British musical theatre are reported; none in Handel opera premieres, very few in oratorios. Daniel Sullivan, for instance, created the part of Athamas in Handel’s Semele and appeared in stage works by Purcell, Boyce, Arne, etc
jeanambr 5 months ago
@jeanambr I thought William Savage, after his bass changed, sang both as a bass and as a countertenor for Handel. Or was he a bass for the operas and a countertenor for the Oratorios? Hmmm.
90lysander 5 months ago
c est moins horrible que d ordinaire chez jaroussky
acanthe83 6 months ago
fabulous da capo
thank you!
fastborzoi 11 months ago
Sì, tu hai ragione. Era molto tardi quando ho scritto la risposta e in effetti i falsettisti erano usati solo in sostituzione dei castrati. Graize mille!
GliOminiVerdi 2 years ago
Per quanto io ne so, nel ''600/'700, i falsettisti, se furono utilizzati in Inghilterra (fuori comunque dall'ambiente teatrale), non lo furono certamente in Italia: nello Stato Pontificio i ruoli femminili erano affidati a giovani castrati. Se hai notizie diverse dalle mie, basta che tu mi faccia un nome o un ruolo in qualche opera italiana creato originariamente da un controtenore. Con simpatia.
jeanambr 2 years ago
well, they were adored in the south of Italy, in whom Pontifician State had a great influence and where it was forbidden to play music on stage for a woman. But where women could sing on stage, they was rarely on stage, and only in the leading role (tenors were not liked) of the male.
GliOminiVerdi 2 years ago
great performances. great music, the singer, and the musicians. BRAVISSIMI QUEST'ARIA E' FANTASTICA.
VIVALDItheBEST 2 years ago