Tom Campbell MBT Forum March 2011 Pt 2/5

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[probablechoices]

Thanks Tom.

[probablechoices]

Hey Tom,

Would you say that our PMR RuleSet, this math,physics, was originally randomly generated by our LCS in what was the big digital bang? Are the input constants for trainers like our PMR generated at random?

In this universe it seems that #s 0-9 randomly, constantly occurring create all this. Are those #'s fundamental to the digital nature of what we are, our just the #s for this PMR would you say? 0-9 cause you can cross add any # and get those. Thanks Tom, keep up the awesome work.

[enormousforce]

@twcjr44 You say the stagnation happens because the person becomes too self-focused.. but wouldnt that self-focus be a result of the bliss itself, since when youre blissful you wont even feel like you need to do anything to make progress or make things better than what they are?

[enormousforce]

What ur saying is that the bliss itself isnt a bad thing, but if indulged in it can make a person complacent bc he feels no need to be anywhere or do anything..(because nothing could be better than 'now'?) It seems most of us are in the opposite state, where we are in the habit of going places and doing things to make ourselves feel better.. But im afraid if we go too far the other way, we'll feel way better, but we'll become unproductive and risk stagnation.

[deltrontheory]

@twcjr44 Also, about lowering entropy... does that trigger direct/experiential realization, or does it just create the right conditions for it to happen automatically (i.e., without your doing)?

[deltrontheory]

So it's possible to have an intellectual realization of it in the sense that you comprehend the theory well.. but I surmise it's also possible to have the real experience without ever having comprehended the theory. What you think is preferable then for humans in general given then context? Intellectual then experiential, or just go straight to experiential?

[enormousforce]

I dont doubt that many are in an un-blissful state, but I heard that if you make certain breakthrough at the level of consciousness, it can elevate your consciousness in such a way that you can become blissful without external therapy to keep it propped up (i.e., you dont need to buy something to feel good). But when I looked at it, I saw it could be a trap, because the bliss might make a person unproductive (because they lack discipline/discretion).

[enormousforce]

I heard that many people who achieved experiential realization become content to sit on dirt mounds or park benches while resting in bliss. How is someone to avoid falling into that potential pitfall? Is it something to do with intent?