Islamic System - Dr israr Vs Javed Ahmed Ghamidi Part 6/8

A discussion or debate over political concepts of Islam. A very thought provoking discussion.

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[Factszz]

@@Whole Sharia law is contained in Noble Quran. Any law or ritual that has no roots in Quran are unnecessary and so are not mandatory.

These freak Mullahs has made up many laws frm hadith bks tht were fabricated in the name of Prophet by Irani Parsi hadith Imams 300 yrs aft Prophet & these hadith bks insult Allah Prophet & attack Quran.

Imams bokhari Muslim, IbneMaja Nisaee abudaud Tirmizi & PIg Kileeni who forged shia bk al-kaafi were all enemy of Allah & Rasool

Awake up Muslims

[artistlikeu]

Ghamidi is more knowledgeable and calm. Also check the gestures of both while discussing. One fanatic who intend to kill the whole humanity in the name of religion. While second man tries to explain the broader sense of Jihad and whole scenario of Quranic proof and Prophet's regime.

Dr. Israr is sick and has the mission of killing the humanity only. He needs to understand Quran rather than imposing his wishes. Pitty on such scholars who spent 50 years and has this level to claim a scholar.

[engineering4logic]

@FictionsBlaster Your wordings and foul language, just goes on to prove how poor and backward your way of speaking is. It is only when people like you claim they know more about the Quran than the prophet (s.a.w.) himself that proves how dangerous this mentality is. Your abusive language shows how bad your upbringing was and how much you need to learn about manners. Please avoid insulting islam its not the right thing to do.

[FictionsBlaster]

@engineering4logic

U are a bigggg liar. U are not an engineer but a Crooked Donkey disguised in human skin. No any engineer in this world can be so brainless and stubborn blindly following fool as u are. Just shut-up and get lost frm here. Matter of truth will never enter in ur empty head. U are who deny even 2+2=4, Go to mad's hospital

[FictionsBlaster]

@eng

Allah says again and again in his BOOK that his Book is complete and Fully detailed. After this what Allah has said; if any person say, Quran is not complete and is not enuf & so we see forged hadiths, THEN he is biggest bastrd on this earth and his head has no brain but shit of pig.

Should u Bloody Fool badly brainwashed Psych-Fanatic Believe in Allah or ur Gay Pig Liar Mullahs who brainwashed u piglet? U not a Engineer. Simply: What is not Fard in BOOK is not Fard

[FictionsBlaster]

@engine

No one can disrespect TRUE PERSONAL SAYING [his personal hadith] of Prophet. So this is not the argument. But the point is that there was strict ban on possessing hadiths in the time of Prophet by Prophet and 4 Guided Caliphs and there is full fledged historical evidence for this ban on hadith. Why they banned? Bcaz they wanted Muslims shud follow only BOOK OF ALLAH. Allah says his book is complete. When u hv complete BOOK in ur hands, why shud u see other Book. U dumb

[engineering4logic]

@FictionsBlaster Your last statement makes it clear to me that you clearly have no knowledge of what you are speaking about. Do you actually know what hadees means?!? Hadees is simply the saying of the prophet muhammad (s.a.w.) When you claim that in Sahih muslim that is what was said by the prophet (s.a.w.) then that in reality is a hadees. If you follow simply the Quran without the live example of the prophet (s.a.w.) there are serious chances you would be mislead. Follow both

[FictionsBlaster]

@e

To follow Prophet in Person is possible when he was alive. When he was alive. he was telling people to Follow Book of Allah. How u can follow Prophet after his death? There is only one way to following him which is to follow what he said us to follow: What he told us to follow? In Hadith Book of Muslim, he Said not one but FIVE times, [we can show u] "If u will hold fast after me one thing, u will never go Astray that is BOOK OF ALLAH. [hadith never existed when he said so]

[Factszz]

Whole Islamic law is contained ONLY IN QURAN.

Do u believe in what Allah says? Quranic Verse 5:44 declares those persons "KAAFIRS" who make sharia Laws from other Books than Noble Quran. [So no any Sharia law is valid but from Quran]

Abu Bakar said:

"If anyone inquires, you can always say tht we have the Holy Quran between us. Whatsoever it has been granted must be made permissible & whatsoever has been prohibited must be relinquished."

(Quoted in Tazkara tul Hifaaz e Zuhby, page 321)

[Factszz]

@engineering4logic

Thirty yrs after the death of Prophet Chief Scribe for Quranic Wahi Zayd visited the palace of Caliph Amir Moaavia. One day he told a very good story about Prophet. Caliph liked the story very much and called a person to write down that story But Zayed said, NO, Prophet forbade us to write any of his hadith EXCEPT Quran.

[Factszz]

@engineering4logic

A great Well known TRUTHFUL scholar of past Maulana Ubaid Ullah Sindhi says,

'I feel embarrassed to ask a Neo-Muslim European to read Bukhari's Hadith.'

(Risala al'Furqan, Shah Waliullah number, page # 286)

[Factszz]

@engineering4logic

"Abu Bakar RA brought collection of Hadiths and then he made a bonfire of them all."

(Quoted in Tudween e Hadith, page 285-88)