Did Jesus Claim To Be God? Part 3

This debate is called "Did Jesus Claimed to be God?" The Debaters are Apologist Edward L. Dalcour and Sadiq Abdul Malik.

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Education

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• Jesus
• Christians
• Christianity
• God
• Allah
• Muslim
• Muhammad
• Islam

[TheFateofFaith]

himwhitegirl those statements are not ignorent but merely point out the conflict that the n.t is in with it self statement in conflict with statement verse in conflict with verse book in conflict with book witch by the way are the undeniable sighns of coruption by the hands of men as jeremiah 8;8 says and rev.22 18-19 .the n.t. is also in conflict with the o.t. when it comes to textual harmony n.t.says god judges equally regardless of station in life but read in o.t that is not the case at all

[TheFateofFaith]

i notice a patern, there is no effort to answer anything of relevance by christians they scoot around points by completly avoiding them and making believe they do not exist . what is the value of a faith that provides no answers and no guidence. i pray that christians wake up from there comfertable DECEPTION and acsept the clear truth of islam like i did 8 years ago.

[TheFateofFaith]

THE ANSWER IS CRISTAL CLEAR NIETHER JOHN NOR THOMAS BELIEVED OR TAUGHT THAT JESUS WAS GOD.AND AS YOU CONTINUE READING YOU WILL SEE NO TEACHING FROM DECIEPLES OR OTHER WIZE THAT JESUS IS GOD.james the brother of jesus follows suit in his gosple called the dide-kay.found in jerusalems greek quater the gosple which is among the vary oldest and original to james himself MAKES NO MENTION OF JESUS AS GOD OR THE SON OF GOD OR DYING FOR THE SINS OF MEN BUT REFER TO HIM AS A BELOVED PROPHET GOD

[TheFateofFaith]

written in verse 31 -but these are written that yee might believe that jesus is god,the son of god and that believing yee might have life through his name but of course that is not what he wrote this is what he wrote but these are written that you might believe that jesus is the christ meaning masiah the son of god that believing yee may have life through his name so therefor either john and thomas are in dissagreement as to who christ was OR THEY BOTH AGREE THAT JESUS IS IN NO WAY GOD

[TheFateofFaith]

to god but believed him separate from god even his apostles did not see him as god i could site amillion examples of that but i will address his use of thomas .confession in jn.20;28 that seems to be my oponents personel favorit i guess he thinks this is a slam dunk verse that proves that jesus is god but it is quite the opposit it destroys his case in verse 28 thomas makes his statement he says my lord my god but if JN. the writer of this gosple would have agreed with thomas he would have

[TheFateofFaith]

at 1 minute and 56 seconds of this vidio he either did not know or he just staight up lied the church fathers did not proclaim jesus christ as god nor did his followers please refer to my debate with bob siegle. tertulian a father and co- conspiriter who first used the term trinitas = trinity says there was a time when there was niether sin to make god a judge nor a son to make god a father terulian blows up jn.1;1 himself. justin marter,clement and origin did not hold to the equality of jesus

[julio14335]

Did the Jews believe in Jesus as "God"?

[islamtogo]

@thewanderingmuslim - Ameen!

[antiazazel]

Pay special attention to the words, when Jesus rebuked the Pharisees Seducees and Scribes. Let the Word speak to you as He spake, which is also trutfully recorded. I need not convince you, let the Spirit/Forespeech do that. Like Father, like Son. God Himself cannot lie, when He speaks it becomes or exists whatever He sais. He spoke everything into existence. During Jesus Glorification on a Hilltop, God spake with a voice from above. Go read what the Bible sais God said, there were witnesses.

[QuiteNot]

The disciples did miracles after Jesus gave them the Holy Spirit of God. So the disciples believed he was God.

So if Jesus said he is the eternal God, I AM, YHWH and the disciples worshipped him as God and even his enemies believed he was claiming he was God, so much so they wanted to kill him for blasphemy. Jesus was God in the flesh. God emptied himself (of his power) and become nothing (man).

Daniel 7 (God) says that the Son of Man is to be worshipped he is the only one who can forgive you.

[QuiteNot]

@mobb77 This debate is not worth any more time, this guy is just repeating the same tired old muslim arguments.

The Christian guy said this is what the muslim guy will do (focus on the human side of Jesus and not the deity passages, take everything out of context, where the Christian guy proved, even the unbelievers in Jesus, the Jews trying to kill him, believed Jesus was saying he is God, so it's conclusive Jesus was God) and he was right. Jesus was human and God.

[mobb77]

You poor son's of ........ WHO THE F IS PAUL... JOHN.... "KING" JAMES AND ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT SAID THIS THAT SAID THAT??????? WHO IN THE NAME OG GOD IS PAUL???? ARE U PEOPLE SERIOUS??????? BELIVE IN WHAT A CLOWN PAUL SAID!!!!????? WHO IN THE RIGHT STATE OF MIND BELIEVES IN A RELIGION BASED ON OF WHAT A DUDE NAMED PAUL SAID?????????? WHO IS PAUL???????? ACCORDING TO PAUL ACCORDING TO KING JAMES??? KING JAMES????? HA HA HA WEAK STUFF!!!!

[truthofjesus4all]

Did Allah ever claimed that "I am a healer"... Find quranic verse, please?

Do you think God or as such any person MUST claim before they can perform an action? Else their actions mean nothing?

Jesus does not need to claim anything to prove. HE did show that HE has the power and HE can give power to others. In Jesus' name disciples performed miracles... it shows that there is something special about Jesus.

[mumswording]

You re right all the prophets were sent. Every ONE was ISREALITES. Muhmaed was a ishmaelite.

Every prophet did miricles. The quran states muhamed could not do any miricles.

Mohamed was sinful--- Quran 47:21, 110

Mohamed could not perform miracle--- Quran 29:49

Mohamed was an idolator--- Sahih Bukhari vol.6 p452

Mohamed begin to steal from others--- Ibn Hisham p281-

Mohamed made seing eyes blind--- Sahih Bukhari vol.8 p520