Professional MMA fighter Vs. 2000 Olympic Judokan Fighter

Professional MMA fighter Ray Elbe, a purple belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu faces 2000 Olympic (Sydney) Judo participant Hassen Moussa. A Judo Black Belt, Moussa also holds the rank of Brown belt in BJJ.

This fight was the Semifinals for the 2008 Abu Dhabi International Jiu-Jitsu Cup held at the world famous Abu Dhabi Combat Club in the UAE. Moussa wins the fight on points with a score of 6-2, before eventually capturing the events gold medal and the 2,000 USD cash prize awarded by H.H. Sheikh Zayed Bin Mohamad Bin Zayed Al Nahyan. Ray Elbe earned the tournament Bronze medal with this defeat.

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• Olympic
• Judo
• MMA
• BJJ
• Abu
• Dhabi
• Ray
• Elbe
• Hassen
• Moussa
• ADCC
• BTT
• Lotus
• Tiger
• Muay
• Thai
• UAE

[BlackShinobiShozoku]

This guy is a real Judoka. he deserves his belt. He actually learned the art of Judo instead of just learning how to compete in Judo competition. He kept his posture correct... hence why the guy couldn't pull guard correctly. And he threw that person. And beat the BJJ'er using basics. While the BJJ guy is doing tricks after trick but the fundamentals of the Judoka kept them from working.

[glock70]

@Brandontrann Never said it wasn't I been tapped out by white belts in my BJJ class no shame here

[jaytabz]

so ahh.. noob here.. which one is the judo guy and which one is mma?

[momo200090]

JUDO = FUCKING AWSOME :):):):)

[44excalibur]

@navyteccs Look, I swear I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm just saying that BJJ's lineage to Judo has already been well documented and deserves respect. Even Renzo Gracie talks about this lineage in his book, and how the only reason that Judo became known as Jiu Jitsu in Brazil is because the name Judo was unkown at the time. But the techiques they were learning were Judo techniques called by a different name, that's all.

[44excalibur]

@navyteccs Karate and Muay Thai have separate lineages. Karate is a comination of native Okinawa Te and Chinese Kung Fu. The name for triangle in Judo is sankaku-jime. and the Triangle was already a Judo symbol referring to a set of three imaginary lines on the mat. The base line for the triangle runs between uke's toes and its peak's height changes according to the size of you and your uke. It is applicable to a variety of throws(Uchi mata, Tai otoshi, Seoi nage, Harai Goshi).

[navyteccs]

@44excalibur there are punches in karate and in muay thai but who copied who? helio created and improved many techniques that he learned because most of the moves required strength. the triangle was created in the gracie academy which is why its their symbol.

[44excalibur]

@navyteccs The BJJ armbar is originally called the Juji gatame(armlock) in Judo, and most BJJ techniques have a corresponding Japanese name used in Judo. Judo is BJJ's direct lineage. No one ever taught Maeda Japanse Jujutsu, and no one taught the Gracies Japanese Jujutsu.

[44excalibur]

@navyteccs Again, I mean no offense, but Maeda only knew Judo. If you look up Mitsuyo Maeda's history you'll see he was a Sumo wrestler before he became Jigoro Kano's Judo student at the Kodokan in Japan. Mitsuyo Maeda never studied classical Japanese Jujutsu. He only called Judo by the name Jiu Jitsu because that was the only name westerners knew. Kano himself only called his style Kano Ju Jitsu until he officially changed the name to Judo to distinguish it as different from classical Jujutsu.

[navyteccs]

@44excalibur the only lineage it has to judo is the guy who brought JJ to brazil also knew judo.

[44excalibur]

@navyteccs And yes, I know that Maeda called it Jiu Jitsu when he taught Carlos Gracie, but only because the word Judo was unfamiliar to westerners and it was easier to just call it by a name they were familiar with. It's like if I showed an apple to someone who had never seen an apple, but I called it an orange. That person would also call it an orange, even though it's really an apple that they're eating. Again, I'm not knocking BJJ, I'm just stating it's lineage to Judo., that's all.

[44excalibur]

@navyteccs Well, there was a difference between Judo and classical Jujutusu as Kano devoloped it, focusing on the techniques that were more easily practiced in live training. It's just that Judo fell under the same general category as "Jujutsu" until Kano started calling it Judo, and wasn't officially recognized as a seperate art until much later. But Kodokan Judo retains all ground technique that went to BJJ, and that's what Maeda taught. It was Olympic style Judo that became more stand-up.