Karajan conducts Mozart Symphony 41 'Jupiter' iv

4th Movement: Molto Allegro

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• mozart
• 41
• jupiter
• Karajan

[princessebrune]

this is certainly NOT KARAJAN !!! stop making this kind of stupid jokes !!!

[deandusk]

it is you who should check before saying something embarrasing for yourself only !

buy the recording, listen it, and be amazed. yes this is h von karajan.

p.s.: it's from the first recordings of karajan (1930-40s)

[vkoracx]

@Timrath

two more successful op2 n1 and op2 n 3

I especially like op2 n3 and I really think that person who calls it "trashy " or "mediocre" do not know a lot about music or is just here to provoke

[vkoracx]

@Timrath

it is not mediocre it is a composer -genius at the beginning of his way and ,let's talk about op2 n3 - it already has many of the romantic elements that are new to music and revolutionary

even better-I analyzed these sonatas ,not only played them

some of Beethoven works are less successful but I would never include there his piano sonatas ,or at least not all of the numbers you mentioned.. op2 n2 is less successful and Beethoven might have deliberately put them among two more succ.

[Timrath]

@vkoracx My, my, aren't we charming today.

No, it doesn't show ignorance or stupidity. At best, it shows arrogance, which I don't deny. I'm neither stupid nor ignorant for disliking something that is so unbearably mediocre, compared to all the other masterpieces Beethoven wrote. They may sound exciting to someone who doesn't know a lot of music, but to me they're just bland. Call me a spoiled brat, if you must.

But tell me, have you actually played those sonatas I mentioned?

[vkoracx]

@Timrath

trashy sonatas?

not his mature works but certainly not trashy

to call them "trashy" shows ignorance and stupidity

[muesk3]

@Timrath That's still early Beethoven. He started late with his publishing, agreed, but it is correct to label it early Beethoven. Though that hardly matters, what does matter however, is that you seem to call good pieces of music trash? They're surely not up there with his finest works, but trashy, really? On what grounds?

[Timrath]

@muesk3 The first sonata isn't really "early Beethoven". He was already 25 whe he wrote it.

And while it is indeed a masterpiece, he did follow up on it with some really trashy sonatas, like the numbers 2, 3, 6 and 10.

[Timrath]

@kuribohkrazy Gah... I hate it when amateurs speak as if they were experts. This is indeed Karajan.

That's the way they used to play Mozart back in the 40s and 50s. If it sounds awful, then that's partly due to what the taste of those times were, and partly due to the primitive recording techniques. We're talking grammophone technology here.

[kuribohkrazy]

this is definatly not karajan. Karajan concducted pieces as if he was the composer who composed the piece. Mozart was a delicate composer and Karajan would surely took note of that. This piece just sounds like a normal non-trained concductor. Definatley not kARAJAN