Obstacles Remain for Obama in China

President Barack Obama and Chinese President Hu Jintao promised a determined, joint effort to tackle climate change, nuclear disarmament and other global troubles. (Nov. 17)

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[wideawake123]

@Guanchen Yeah it does. You just blamed Pres. Bush for 9/11. So I Am contradicting you. Just as Clinton empowered and emboldened Osama bin Laden, Osama Obama is doing the same with Islamic "moderates"(which means The Muslim Brotherhood, parent organization for every Sunni Terror group from al Qaeda to Hamas and Islamic Jihad, and all it front groups like ISNA, MSA and CAIR) You sir are Wrong and you have been since your 1st comment. Obama has made America miss Bush he's so bad.

[Guanchen]

@wideawake123 what you said doesn't contradict what I said. so why are you bringing it up? The planning is before his term, fine. Does that mean it's not his business when planets hit the buildings?

I feel we have reached a point in our discussion where you are done, you are just hoping for me to say something wrong and counter my point. Which means I am right and you see that. What's stoping you from saying that is your pride. I am not going to take that from you. So this is my last reply.

[wideawake123]

@Guanchen You need a serious reeducation in the Facts pal. The 9/11 attacks were planned, funded, and the terrorist were trained all under the Clinton administration. Bush hadnt even been POTUS 8 months when 9/11 happened. The U.S.S Cole, Khobar Towers, The US Embassy Bombings in Kenya and Tanzania and the 1st WTC Attack all came under Clinton. As for foreign policy, Obama makes Bush look like Reagan or Roosevelt. Under Bush, our allies knew we had their backs and our enemies feared us. No More.

[Guanchen]

@wideawake123 Are you seriously going to argue Bush and 9/11? It was Bush's fault 9/11 happened in the first place. (Sure he didn't crash the plane, but in his presidency he failed to protect US from this attack, that is a mistake, not an achievement), Like you said he kept the states safe for 8 years after that. But in doing so he made US foreign policy aggressive, and reduce US's creditability in an international level. That is also a mistake, not to be praised.

[wideawake123]

Just pick up a newspaper. The incidence of Islamic holy attacks and foiled attempts has risen dramatically since Obama's apology tour, and Cairo speech. He capitulated American exceptionalism to Islam and bowed to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, he unleashed a shit-storm. Bush kept the homeland safe for 8 years after 9/11 and all Obama can do is blame Bush for his own failed presidency. 19 months and he's already the worst thing that ever happened on US soil. Bush was a giant compared to Obama.

[Guanchen]

@wideawake123

1. I know he is no longer POTUS, this discussion isn't about the current state of US Foreign, it's about you thinking Bush's foreign policy is good, which is not. And I have proven from time to time again, it has not improve middle east and in fact it caused more trouble.

2. Yes Saddam killed many people, yes he is a bad man. But is it for US to say whether he gets to live or die? It's Iraq matter, maybe world concern, but it certainly is not US concern. Two word, European colony

[wideawake123]

1st. George W. Bush is no longer POTUS, and hasn't been for almost 2 years, so if you have objections to US foreign policy in Iraq, take it up with the America-hating Muslim in the Whitehouse and his America-hating Bitch of a wife.

2nd. I wonder if the people Saddam fed into industrial paper-shedders alive, or those he had bound and thrown off of buildings would agree about Iraq's sability. What do you think the 42,000 Iraqis he murdered every year would say about that? Oh yeah...they're dead.

[Guanchen]

@wideawake123 Where did you get such information? About rise in holy murders during Obama's term? Even if you are right, we still come back to my original point: So what? Just because Obama suffer worse suicide bomber doesn't justify Bush's foreign policy. It is a mess, now it's a bigger mess. It's like you done something bad then point to the kid who done something worse. Wrong is wrong, showing a woese example doesn't make the wrong doing go away.

[Guanchen]

@wideawake123 I never said Bush made the Iraq mess. I said Iraq is a mess, and Bush's foreign policy isn't making it better. But come to think of it, Iraq was more stable before US occupation. They never found weapon of mass destruction, and they made the country a lot worse. Now they have to stay. You say US troops are wanted there... perhaphs, but that's because the alternative will result in US came to Iraq, make a mess, then wipe their butt and left when things got worse.

[wideawake123]

Didn't you just say that Iraq Was a mess...and Bush made it that way? We've been drawing down troops in Iraq for over a year. As I said, we are there at the behest of the Iraqi Gov..That means they still want us there to train their troops and build their infrastructure. As for Islamic death-mongers, There is no stopping them, there is only containing Islam and denying them Mosques from which to launch strikes at us. Obama's policies have caused a marked rise in Islamic holy Murders in USA.