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The TRUE Utah Voucher Cookie Ad (Referendum 1)

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Uploaded by on Oct 29, 2007

http://utahedu.blogspot.com/
This video is the true response to the original Oreo cookie ad in Utah. It is simplified, but a full explanation can be found at the blog above. Forward this to any Utah voter you can. Let's get the message out.

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  • The money is distributed in $2417 chunks called WPU's to districts, which then spread that money around to many needs. Each individual student uniquely uses a few bucks in paper. The rest is shared. For full detail, check my blog which is listed in my profile above. The Nuts and Bolts posts from November specifically address voucher funding.

  • We can have an honest disagreement on educational philosophy (this is general, not directed at you Cpezo)--whether public education is the best way to use our tax funds. But there is NO HONEST WAY to claim that vouchers save public schools money. The $7500-$2000 = $5000 "savings" to "redistribute" AND the $1 billion in savings that were mailed out to thousands of voters this weekend are lies. Check my blog. =)

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  • Yes, there's absolutely NO correlation between school funding and student performance!

    *Doesn't have a textbook*

    *Gets lunch made by mom every day*

    *Fails state exams based on those textbooks*

  • I agree with UtahTeacher's main points. But it's ironic that many voucher foes are also SCHIP supporters, since both plans share similar financial inequities.

    If not a financial one, what's the real reason they dislike vouchers?

    The complaints of accreditation, teacher qualifications, and accountability all fall squarely against religious schools. Basically, to vote down vouchers is to refuse to enable the moral education of students whose parents would choose it if they could afford it.

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  • This argument relies on the premise that the size of the student body is irrelevant to the need for funds, that a school district's necessary expenditures are a constant, not a variable.

    Simple math: less students = less resources needed.

  • a good analogy

  • Please tape your thesis defense and post it on youtube.

  • Also, there is a clear indictator that wealthier families produce more successful students, ALL OTHER FACTORS BEING EQUAL.

    Do parents need to be schooled on how to help their kids do well? Yes, of course. But we need to offer more to failing schools than boot straps.

  • No. That's not it at all.

    What about parents working 2-3 jobs? (especially single moms). How can we except them to have the same time, money, and energy as a stay-at-home "middle class" mom? Not that the working poor don't love their kids and want them to fail, the reality of it is many families lack the resources to do better.

    We expect these people to somehow overcome what most people don't. It's a weird sort of exceptionalism that relieves the rest of our society from any responsibility.

  • By the way, this is a great video. :)

  • Are you trying to claim that socioecdonomic status has absolutely no bearing on education? As someone getting her PhD in education, I think you'd have a source to back that up.

  • "savings"

  • Okay. Here is the real truth about education coming from someone getting her Ph.D in education. Children that have parents that care about education will do well whether the children are in a highly funded school or a low-funded school. Children whose parents use school as daycare and don't hold their children accountable for their academic and emotional behavior will not do well in school or in life. That's it!!

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