Eric Hobsbawm on Gramsci's Marxism (1987) 1/7
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@nikolgan They are both totalitarian. The spectrum on which the lie is not a straight line, but bent like a horseshoe. Hitler just replaced the idea of the vangard with the nation because he wanted differentiate himself with stalin. The red in the Nazi flag represents their socialist roots. What type of freedom do you refer to? Certain not individual freedom. Socialism inexorably moves toward large government and increased coersion. Big government equals little citizen.
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You are the one brainwashed one, friend.
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Prominent figure of the 20th century. Haha, history is obviously not scrembo's strongest point. Not that Marx was the most tolerant person ever to exist, but he wasn't any better or worse than the average man in the 19th century.
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@scrembo: We do forgive you. In fact, we feel sorry for you.
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@scrembo you are "THINKPOL", man!
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wow. marx didnt even live in the 20th century. not for a second.
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@scrembo To continue, even in soviet union there was free health system, free education. Take a look in public care in capitalism. See the homeless people the unemployed.
I can see that you know some ''socialists''. Well, let me remind you some others too, just for the discussion's sake..
emiliano zapata, che guevara, αρης βελουχιωτης, luiza missel, gramsci, luxembourg, dolores ibarruri. See how they fought for liberty and what did it cost them..
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@scrembo Who suggested Hitler enforced socialism? I said that fascism and socialism not only have nothing in common but also are exect opposites. Fascism is built on the nation, on the race (even the name derives from the latin verb fscio meaning bond around myself). Socialism is all about freedom. And you can see that in the way the communist manifest ends.
Lenin and Mao were leaders in a civil war. (war against tsarism, and the kuomitang). I myself don't consider
Pol pot or stalin as socialis
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@scrembo Oh, I don't know, perhaps it's better to look at in terms of timescale. For how long did fascism (capitalism with it's claws out) exist ? Scale that up.
& lets not forget that nobodies crimes exceed those of the British Empire............in absolute terms
scrembo:
"I would also point out that the ONLY prominent figure of the 20th Century to openly advocate any form of racial genocide was in fact a communist - Karl Marx!"
I think this statement just points out to all the grownups in the audience the quality of scrembo's fare.
Rabid, frothing idiocy.........
Bigmartinno1 1 year ago 23
@scrembo You, Sir, are an idiot.
4Marxism 1 year ago 6